Seamoon (Anderton) Fresh Fuzz gut shots

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bhill wrote:Duckman, your scheme matches the hand drawn one I made several months ago, you may have just made me lazy on getting this into Express Schematic. :D
Glad to know that we see the same things :lol: If you want, I can send you the archive and you can tweak it at your taste, no problem at all
bhill wrote:That must have been for an even earlier version, because all of them I've seen have no diodes.
Yeah... I agree

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Thank you for the offer, but I have already finished the Express sch one. Except for minor differences on how we laid things out, they are identical. :D

Now if Anderton had left the diode clipping section in, everyone would be cloning this circuit instead of the TS... That's why I compared the Lovepedal Eternity to this one several months ago. 8)

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Black Cat OD with another OpAmp...

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bhill wrote:Now if Anderton had left the diode clipping section in, everyone would be cloning this circuit instead of the TS...
That's interesting...
vot wrote:Black Cat OD with another OpAmp...
...and that´s interesting too.
I need to check it, both

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Post by rhandy gaye »

hi,

i posted some stuff about the freddie fuzz that i had noticed a while back. it's interesting comparing the schematic i redrew or edited to the seamoon fuzz.

pretty much the same circuit to me.

the edited schematic is the top pic, the circuit below is what i believe the wrong schematic that floats around the net.
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hi,

forgot to add that when comparing the seamonn fuzz and freddie fuzz that

i'm pretty confident that the mistakes on the black cat od-1 internet schematics are:

.1uf caps are .047uf
10uf electroluytic is 22uf electrolytic
and 100k resistor from Vbias joins to Vcc and 430 ohm resistor.

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Interesting. With the exception of adding the blocking diode, the extra filter cap and a very few value changes, this is the Fresh Fuzz. What is the date for the Black Cat? Looking back at some of my old info, I bought the FF in 1972. Don't ask me why I still have that info... :lol:

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Black Cat started in 1995...but read this, from his page: (bolds by my own)

"The Black Cat OD-1 (a.k.a. Freddie Fuzz) is an original design Fred created based on the unique properties of the OP275, a dual operational amplifier chip made by Analog Devices. The OP275 is a high-quality op-amp that gives a distinctive linear output waveform. The Black Cat OD-1 can go from clean, to slightly crunchy, to all-out saturated distortion. It is unique in that it is extremely sensitive to the guitar; it responds to the player’s pick attack, and like a good Fuzz Face, it cleans up well when you roll back the volume on the guitar. The Black Cat OD-1 has been used by Scott Henderson, Steve Luthaker, Beck, Lyle Workman, Kyle Cook (Matchbox Twenty), and many others."

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vot wrote:Black Cat OD with another OpAmp...
You say it first :lol:

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And another one bites the dust... :applause:

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Post by Duckman »

Low pass filters 22k/220p gives almost 33kHz for frequency corner!... what's the point? :scratch: Not to disturb the dogs?

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Hah! The Black Cat OD-1 has just been put to bed! Great thread!!!!!
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Duckman wrote:Low pass filters 22k/220p gives almost 33kHz for frequency corner!... what's the point? :scratch: Not to disturb the dogs?
Maybe to avoid HF oscillation... I really thonk that those filters are the parts to fit to taste !!!
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Just for fun, I'm trying to trace the lm741 version. Actually the gut shots on discofreq's site don't show the board and traces quite well !
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Looking at those images, my gut feeling is it will be pretty much the same as the first stage, just figuring out where the bite pot ties in. I will have to look at them a bit closer to see if I can make out that part of the circuit. It would help if they had popped the board up from the glue holding it down to the case. It was a similar glue on mine, but after a whole bunch of years the glue separated pretty easily from the board and case. Some kind of silicon sealant.

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Post by rhandy gaye »

hi,

i built this from the seamoon schematic above but using an old freddie fuzz replica board i had lying around. i thinks it sounds really good.
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Nice looking build... :applause:

My own feeling about this pedal is that it sounds too nice to fade away into the dustbins of history. I'm glad to see others share my feeling.

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Nice! Very neat! :applause:

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Post by greenskull »

Using the Fuzz Central Black Cat OD pcb all you have to do is flip the one end of the 100k to the other side of the 430R resistor (trace connected to pin 8 of IC)and you're good to go?
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Sorry, here's a link to Fuzz Central's Black Cat layout:
http://fuzzcentral.ssguitar.com/pcbs/blackcatlayout.gif
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