Seamoon (Anderton) Fresh Fuzz gut shots

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That is a thought, but I did re-do the board layout to add the pulldown. That will help others but I don't know if I will make any others. Just doing this one so I can stash the original away to preserve it. It will join my original '74 Phase 90 in the private stash. :wink: I probably won't get that uploaded until late tomorrow, though. Gotta take the wife in for some tests tomorrow and that will take most of the day.

What are you doing for the bass version, doubling all the coupling caps to drop resonance an octave? I did something similar to make a bass version of the Lovepedal Eternity, but I also ended up having to change some of the resistors just to keep things in line with the parts I had on hand at the time. Of course, after several nights of punching numbers into my scientific calculator I found Analogguru's chart.
http://analogguru.an.ohost.de/techstuff/Reactance.htm

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Duckman wrote:Very nice! :applause:
What caps are the black ones?
http://www.alltronics.com/cgi-bin/item/ ... radial-cap

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hi, sorry, fixed pcb.

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Rhandy: Sorry to say, but your pcb is still containing an error. Pins 1 & 2 should not connect? Also there needs to be a trace from pin 1 going to pads that r2 and c3 connect together at. Am I just getting it wrong?
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hi,

sorry, you're not getting it wrong. i have complete brain F#@k, and my three daughters were annoying me when i was doing the redraw.

sorry again.
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I tested today .1 caps a lá Black Cat instead of .047's
Bottom increases without being too muddy... not bad... kinda Ratish
I will mount a proto and test it on saturday's sound check, just to see.
Maybe a simple Rat tone section will be useful :|

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Rhandy: Thanks a lot, no apologies needed!!
Duckman: Also thanks for trying the bigger caps for me..... I'll get it on the breadboard as soon as possible and try to make a decision.

Just a note:
I was looking through that Analogman pedal book last night and found a write up on Sea Moon. According to the book, Craig Anderton didn't design the Fresh Fuzz, a guy named Lee Powell did. Anderton's contribution was the Funk Machine and another pedal.... maybe the phaser (I forgot!).
Damn, this is a great forum!
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You're welcome!
Shortly after designing the Funk Machine, Anderton came up with the circuit for Seamoon’s Fresh Fuzz distortion pedal. This circuit was a simple op-amp based device with gain and bite controls. “It was really basic,” says Anderton. “It used regular diodes. If I was to design it today, it would be a lot different.”
:scratch: Founded here:
http://www.adaamps.com/History.htm
Don't know what to say :lol:

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Well, if Anderton said he designed it I can't argue with that..... maybe the book got things mixed up? Somebody who has the book please check it out to see if I'm losing my mind or going blind. :whappen:
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I think you read right, but, you know... maybe ADA is using Anderton's words but "sligthly" modified :hmmm:
Now, just to feed your curiosity, look at those cicuits I found in another very discussed thread (about if Lovepedal copy Amp 11) and tell me if you see something familiar...
I believe they are very close to our boy, don't you think?
Nothing's new! :lol:

https://www.freestompboxes.org/download/ ... &mode=view

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Ha! That's why I like this thread so much .... paying respects to the original!
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I always meant to build a Freddy Fuzz so this thread got me motivated to get it goin, might as well add another layout to the party! I reworked a layout I downloaded long ago. Will fit in a 1590B with ease. The transfers are vectored so print with no scaling and you're good to go. The higher you can set your printers resolution the sharper the transfer will be. Info for both boxes are in the PDF. Enjoy!
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hi,

awesome layout but, i'm pretty confident that the freddy fuzz .1 caps in your layout are meant to be .047.

i did some research yonks ago and collcted sheeps of pics and drew the conclusion that the freddy fuzz used the .047 caps. some may have come out with .1 caps but all the pics i have show .047 caps.

the freddy fuzz also seemed to have come on two main pcb's, led and ledless.

on the stolen pics you can read on the green caps the values. when i get time i'll try post a zip file with a bunch of gut shots if anyone is interested.

also the big orange cap says 22uf.
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hi, i forgot to say i do realize the pcb's have been modified to accept different ic's.

cheers, and i hope this helps anyone.

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Great gut shots! You should get em posted in the Freddy Fuzz thread. I read back in the Freddy Fuzz thread that the caps were .047u but I never seen pics, even after scouring google so I just wen't with what was on the errored schematic floating around on the web. I'll update the file. Looks like I got the electros right though.
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Updated the pdf since the correct cap values have obviously been confirmed in the photo above.
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In fact original ones are .05uF :lol:

Ok, I tested Fresh Fuzz circuit in live situation (not really, just in sound check... and breadboarded! :lol: ) with '74 P bass trough a rented Ampeg SVT.
I found enough bottom (with .1 caps mod) as I found before, but too much top end, wich is useful, but I need to get some effective control of it.
Back in my workbench, I started playing with caps and resistors and after all, this what I found useful till now:

220p's changed to 820p = more focused and controlled
Switch to disable 82p = instant and footswitchable "bright" control with no noise at all.

Work well at home... now I'll wait till the next live situation, to be realistic.

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Here's my perfboard take

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Or this, I'm not sure the easy fit of 10uF cap... I'll check when I get back home. Low voltage BC should be good

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