Hornby (Skewes, JHS) Selectatone T.B.2 (Treble/Bass Booster)

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Post by RnFR »

sorry didn't realize those values were missing. but, those caps look awfully similar to the .1, so I'm going to leave it marked for now. .1 is plenty big for bass back in the sixties before ultra low frequencies were popular. regarding the shop, I'd bet a simple email would work. if our situation was explained, I'd bet they would help. it's been done before, especially with these super rare units.
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Post by Electric Warrior »

they do look similar, but still may be a different value. Some versions of the Zonk Machine had 0.47µF caps that look the same as well.
emailing them sure is worth a try...

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Hi EW,whats your provisional view on the out/in caps values,seperate from the t/b network?.I trust your decision.0.1uf for in cap,and 0.1uf for the out cap?Would this be a good starting point?
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Post by Electric Warrior »

Out: pretty sure. For in it might be a good starting point. try your luck!

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Post by Drzeus »

I'll try 0.1uf on the input/out caps and report back
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Post by Electric Warrior »

I emailed Solidbodyguitar, but they had already sold the unit.

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Post by Drzeus »

I made a copy,and felt that 0.1uf was a bit big.I put a tropical fish 0.047uf in,and it sounded better to my ears.The 0.01uf are probably right,but the bass setting was a bit 'rumbly',even at low volume?I like it though.The pedals like a rangemaster/moles foot combo
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Post by Electric Warrior »

0.047 could be correct. They definitely had some of these at hand, I know some Zonk Machines had them.

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ok this is Joe Bonni the guy that worked with Vintage Rob and Bassplayer...................

I have done so many changes and found that all this time i was right on the missing resistor its 100k thanks for that and you could use the oc71 and oc44 just about any will do but here at the caps that really work well ................... funny vintage rob had it all along hahahhahahahha ...............thats what happens when you use the wrong transistors hahahhahahahha .............. C1 on the Input cap is .022uf i use Mullard Tropical and C2 the Output cap is .01uf again Mullard Tropical this will give you the balanced sound you are looking for and it works as well on the 2n4041 .................... I like a switch for the Input cap to have .022uf and .010uf cause you get the brighter ritchie blackmore sound which is very over looked ............... on the GE version I like no Volume Control because in those days they played them wide open and used the guitar volume ................... on the silicone version i like the Volume Control because you get all the in between blackmore sounds ............. one of you guys here used the .1uf i/p and o/p if you use a bc107 you get like ritchies tape player its very close but you have to reverse everything .........................so the switch of the two different tones is cool but dont use a tone control its not good for that type of adjustment and there you have it like 4 years work ...........

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joebonni wrote: one of you guys here used the .1uf i/p and o/p if you use a bc107 you get like ritchies tape player its very close but you have to reverse everything .........................
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Hi! What do you mean by "reversing everything"?

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Post by Scruffie »

oh7hhi wrote:
joebonni wrote: one of you guys here used the .1uf i/p and o/p if you use a bc107 you get like ritchies tape player its very close but you have to reverse everything .........................
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Hi! What do you mean by "reversing everything"?
BC107 is Silicon NPN, you'd have to reverse the power connections to make it negative ground and swap electrolytic orientation.

And Electric Warrior... problem with your schematic, the OC71 is shown as an NPN Symbol :mrgreen:

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Post by Electric Warrior »

Dang, I keep forgetting to change the direction of the arrow. Image

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I knew what you meant E/W!
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Post by Electric Warrior »

Here's the corrected version:
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Post by Electric Warrior »

New schematic: 100k is only in the treble path. Thanks Laundromat, for pointing it out to me!
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Post by Luxbhoy »

Hello guys.
A bit of confused re input and output cap values fur the Germanium version.
Have seen multiple values mentioned in this post.
Does this sound right:
Input Cap - 0.47uF
Output Cap pre TB - 0.1uF

Thanks a lot

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Post by Electric Warrior »

probably 0.1µF for both. It's confirmed for the silicon version.

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Post by Manfred »

The capacitors which are connected to the Bass-Treble switch determines the roll-off frequencies.
The couple capacitor and the filter capacitor are connected in seriell.
That the total capacitance remained largely unaffected the couple capacitor should be at least 10 times greater than the largest filter capacitor.
My guess is threfore a capacitance of the couple capacitor at least 1 Microfarad.

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