Bartell - Shatterbox

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When it rains, it pours !

Here are some better gut shots, from a new ebay auction !!!

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Info I just got from the guy who built the Shatterbox:

" I can absolutely guarantee that I built that one (in my garage) because I -designed- it and layed out the single-sided printed circuit board that it's built on, taped up the artwork, printed the silkscreen, hand cut and resist screened the circuit boards, drilled them, etched them (that etching solution is nasty stuff), soldered in all of the components, and tested them. There were only 100 of them ever built and I built every last one of them with my very own two little hands. <g>

Inside it's a fairly simple little transistor amplifier (IIRC I used a 2N2222) that's biased near cut-off so that the tops of the signal get 'clipped' and cause a lot of odd-order harmonic distortion. I wanted to re-mix the original signal with the distorted signal inside the box, but Ted convinced me that it would be better to bring the 2 signals out so that the performer could put them through 2 channels of their amplifier and adjust the tone and volume of each independently."

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:hmmm: but if you open the shatterbox shown in the link you will find Ge-transistors inside, who build those ?

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analogguru wrote::hmmm: but if you open the shatterbox shown in the link you will find Ge-transistors inside, who build those ?

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it was quite a while ago, maybe the guy's memory is a little hazy?

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theehman wrote:
analogguru wrote::hmmm: but if you open the shatterbox shown in the link you will find Ge-transistors inside, who build those ?

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Those pics aren't available anymore. Do you have them to post?
Currently I am reorganizing my picture collection. In the meantime you can have a look here:
http://filters.muziq.be/model/bartell/shatterbox
What you can see there is what I define as version 1 (maybe version 1 and 2 are mixed up) and version 3 . The picture on the link is from version 1.
Version 1 had at least 2 germaniums (2N408) and seperate outputs. Version 1 had a horizontal mounted pcb.
In version 2 (using the same case as version 1) a different pcb was mounted vertically containing 3 transistors - 2 in TO-1 case and one (from GE I suppose) in a black TO-5 case.
The surrounding components leads me to suspect that it could be simply a Maestro FZ-1 clone.
Version 3 (now in a different case, the white one) indeed used 3 silicon transistors but they don´t appear to be 2N2222 (metal case) - the transistors appear to be made by Motorola and could be (maximum) PN2222 (plastic case).
But: version 3 doesn´t have seperate outputs.

And then we have another problem:
in the gut shots of version 3 you can see, that there is positive ground - the electrolytics are polarized too for positive ground so it´s not that the battery-clip is falsely wired in the wrong direction. This would require PNP-transistors, but the 2N2222 is a NPN transistor ? :scratch:

questions, questions, questions.....

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theehman wrote:
analogguru wrote::hmmm: but if you open the shatterbox shown in the link you will find Ge-transistors inside, who build those ?

analogguru
Those pics aren't available anymore. Do you have them to post?
http://tonebender.webs.com/bartell5.jpg

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