Musitronics - Mu-Tron - Flanger - C130

borislavgajic · Post by **borislavgajic** » 25 Mar 2010, 18:48

one seen for sale.....

https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?V ... 0601710808

is there a schem......?
I really like way this pedall looks........but how it works?

cheers

boris

chicago_mike · Post by **chicago_mike** » 25 Mar 2010, 19:53

http://www.fmogearshop.com/store/home.php?cat=3

Look at the prices of some of these!!!

I think we can make our own.

sinner · Post by **sinner** » 25 Mar 2010, 20:00

$1495.00 for suppa fuzz???

I'm starting to thing that I've made mistake selling mine for 50 Polish Zloty ten years ago...

chicago_mike · Post by **chicago_mike** » 25 Mar 2010, 20:40

http://www.experimentalistsanonymous.co ... langer.pdf

Interesting version of a pedal flanger.

osa · Post by **osa** » 25 Mar 2010, 22:38

chicago_mike wrote:Havent seen the schematic yet.

I've seen requests for this schematic in various forums for years with no responses. It would seem nobody has seen a schematic yet.
Or somebody's holding out.

chicago_mike · Post by **chicago_mike** » 25 Mar 2010, 22:40

If I had a pedal worth $1500 I'd be holding out too!

osa · Post by **osa** » 26 Mar 2010, 01:36

chicago_mike wrote:If I had a pedal worth $1500 I'd be holding out too!

If I had a pedal worth $1500 I'd sell the damn thing.

BTW; just noticed Ronsound has the Mutron Flanger schematic available for $8. Well worth it, IMHO. Probably will go for it when the tax return check comes in. Gotta' pay for the Coolaudio stuff first.

chicago_mike · Post by **chicago_mike** » 26 Mar 2010, 01:48

$8 bucks for the schema?? WOOT!

Well, if I sold my fictitious 1500 pedal..Ig get a couple well worth it hookers! Fuck gear!

Dirk_Hendrik · Post by **Dirk_Hendrik** » 26 Mar 2010, 07:46

chicago_mike wrote:http://www.experimentalistsanonymous.co ... langer.pdf

Interesting version of a pedal flanger.

Interestinfg to see how my schems flat as well

borislavgajic · Post by **borislavgajic** » 26 Mar 2010, 15:31

.......Dirk is one of the best schem Masters on the world

my hat is down for you mister D.

.......this mutron flanger hmmm....any info?.....what BBD is inside.....gut shoots....contact the owner perheaps?

would love to make clone ....if someone provide nice guts,I promiss to do complete tracing and pcb

Boris

theehman · Post by **theehman** » 26 Mar 2010, 15:51

borislavgajic wrote:.......Dirk is one of the best schem Masters on the world
my hat is down for you mister D.

.......this mutron flanger hmmm....any info?.....what BBD is inside.....gut shoots....contact the owner perheaps?

would love to make clone ....if someone provide nice guts,I promiss to do complete tracing and pcb

Boris

It uses an SAD1024 BBD. Schematic attached.

chicago_mike · Post by **chicago_mike** » 26 Mar 2010, 18:33

It has some kind of noise gate and I like the start and stop and pedal part.

borislavgajic · Post by **borislavgajic** » 26 Mar 2010, 19:50

wooooow.....

.....thanks.......now to the PCB, and conversion to MN3007

Boris

chicago_mike · Post by **chicago_mike** » 26 Mar 2010, 20:09

Boris you slut!!!!

sinner · Post by **sinner** » 26 Mar 2010, 21:36

borislavgajic wrote:wooooow..... .....thanks.......now to the PCB, and conversion to MN3007

Boris

fingers crossed

GO GIRL!

chicago_mike · Post by **chicago_mike** » 27 Mar 2010, 00:15

Make it fit a crybaby case.

osa · Post by **osa** » 27 Mar 2010, 04:04

Thank you Ron!

I was thinking about an old Tel Ray Morley shell.
Knobs on the top for easy access and all that...
Kinda' like:
https://s175.photobucket.com/albums/w12 ... C00526.jpg

chicago_mike · Post by **chicago_mike** » 27 Mar 2010, 04:21

borislavgajic · Post by **borislavgajic** » 27 Mar 2010, 10:56

It would be muuuuch easyer to see some gut shoots.......and closer to original one...

so what are the chances somebody really have this baby?

and want to take some shoots

please please....

Boris

p.s.

Up for auction is a fully functional and ultra-rare Mu-Tron Flanger. This is one of 1000 ever made according to Musitronics co-founder Mr. Mike Beigel. Here is a link to his website:

Mu-Tron Collection

Here are some quotes from the inventor on the design of Mu-Tron Flanger:

"The design was not that unconventional; most everyone was using a chip called the SAD1024. The SAD1024 was the chip that really let people make flangers and short-range delay lines that sounded okay. We also used a compander chip around it; but it still wasn't quiet enough for my taste so I put a very strange kind of noise gate around that whole circuit, which worked pretty good and was pretty creative. It actually made the sound a little different on the beginning and the end of notes. If there was a unique sound out of the Flanger, it was mainly because we're trying to build in dynamic range and limit noise.

"Then the other main feature of it was that we included pedal control with an oscillator control, so there was more switching. And we used a start and stop frequency control as opposed to a shelf frequency modulation depth, so that with either the oscillator or the pedal it would just go from one place where it started to the other place where it stopped, and you could shift those points. You could get the same kind of sweep as the other method; it just established the limits differently."

Controls:
Sweep Start

controls the amount of delay at the start of an LFO sweep
Sweep Stop

controls the amount of delay at the top of an LFO sweep
Sweep Rate

controls the speed/rate of the LFO wave that controls the flanger
Feedback

controls the resonance/feedback of the flanger
Effect

turns the effect on and off?
Pedal

switches between the LFO wave and the pedal as control source of the delay time

borislavgajic · Post by **borislavgajic** » 31 Mar 2010, 15:25

So enyone with guts of this pedall.........I even asked directly man who repair mutrons.....but he say ...no no no.....what is purpose of your wish

I would really like to see

thanks
Boris

Musitronics - Mu-Tron - Flanger - C130 [schematic]