Sola Sound - Tone Bender Mark III: ebay madness (+ gutshots)

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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NOS-Sola-Sound-To ... dZViewItem

For a collector like me, interesting pedal, but that price! :shock:
I one 18 Colorsound / Sola pedals and have sold twice that, I have never seen transistor markings hidden before. Maybe because this is a prototype or maybe other reasons?

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I´ve seen that, but I didn´t look at the price before..... :shock:

The funny thing is also the "story" behind it. I highly doubt, that it could be really dated to end 67 or early 68.

It is not a prototype, cause the pcb used is the same as used in the Solasound Tonebender Mark IV - I have guts from 3 different Mark IV´s.

I have also guts from 2 different Vox Mk III´s with these potis, so altogether already 5 units which must have been sold.

Interesting the "comparison" - In fact there have been four different MkIII´s:

- The real "prototype" as shown below, containing a standard 3knob-TB-pcb.
- the units containing the pcb in doubt.
- the same units containing a standard 3-knob-TB-pcb
- and last but not least the MkIII´s containing a Colorsound Jumbo-TB pcb.

On the last the printing "Tonebender MkIII" was below the foootswitch.

Concerning the transistors:
I have two other guts from MkIII´s and MkIV´s who use these (unmarked?) TO-5 transistors, but without the color-dot on the top.

Anyway, I even wouldn´t spent $600,-- for any MkIII or MkIV unit.

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Interesting facts ag, i did doubt the ebay information had any fact to it. Is that yours in the photo? :shock:

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alteredsounds wrote:Interesting facts ag, i did doubt the ebay information had any fact to it. Is that yours in the photo? :shock:
Sadly not... If it would, maybe I could sell it for $6.000,-- :roll:

No I found this photos somewhere on the web (probably evilbay) several years ago....

Here is how it looks inside:
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All the other stuff aside....

He keeps saying it's "New Old Stock"...how can it possibly be NOS if he, self admittedly, has USED the unit ?

I couldn't sell NOS Mustard caps if they had been soldered in to a circuit and used "3 or 4 times"...they wouldn't be NOS. NOS means "NEW, NEVER USED". I could justify him saying "mint condition", or "as close to NOS as you'll find", but saying it IS "NOS" is a flat out lie.

Pretty unit though...not $6k pretty...hell, not $600 pretty (to me)...but I'm sure that somebody is dumb enough to give him $4k - $6k for it.

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Post by Professor SourTone »

$600 would be about right. For $6k, more than 20 people need to know how rare it is.

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Anyone know of a vero layout for this?? Please...? :thumbsup

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bump, please, no vero layouts?

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Picked one of these up last week for £85 :D From 1974 , rough but works perfect
Here are the pics from ebay. The ac128 is not original and does anyone know why the resistor would be jumpered ?
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Post by beenabadbunny »

marmaliser wrote:does anyone know why the resistor would be jumpered ?
Presumably to increase output volume. See the thread about the B&M Fuzz which is a similar circuit:

https://www.freestompboxes.org/viewtopic ... 19&t=7055
sonicvi wrote:A word of advice, that 220K resistor in series with the volume pot is completely useless and lowers the output quite a bit. Jumper it and you'll get more volume, otherwise you barely get unity with the volume pot maxed.

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