Yamaha CMOS Overdrive (gut shots)

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got this cheap in "junk" condition (which means something is defective). Seems to work and produce sound but having no point of ref. have no idea if it's healthy or not. Anyway, thought I'd disassemble to take some guts pics. Hope these are enough (for anyone wanting to make a schematic, etc.). I did bend over some of the parts so the values could be read(photographed), so I hope these are enough, but if anyone REALLY wants I'll take it apart again to take some more pics. (Too redundant, etc. then let me know and I'll delete the pertinent shots.)
near footswitch from front of C42__102 ceramic cap.JPG
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near footswitch and HD14016BP IC_3.JPG
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near footswitch and HD14016BP IC_2.JPG
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near footswitch and HD14016BP IC.JPG
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near DC input jack 16V 220uF.JPG
near DC input jack 16V 220uF.JPG (728.78 KiB) Viewed 2334 times
mini PCB parts side between 182 and 821 ceramics, R33_33k, R28_100k.JPG
mini PCB parts side between 182 and 821 ceramics, R33_33k, R28_100k.JPG (869.5 KiB) Viewed 2334 times
LOW EQ pot 503 alt angle.JPG
LOW EQ pot 503 alt angle.JPG (729.81 KiB) Viewed 2334 times
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HIGH EQ pot 503_b.JPG
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HIGH EQ pot 503.JPG
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from side of uPC1571C IC near several alu electros_bent over.JPG
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back of mini PCB with control pots_trace side.JPG
back of mini PCB with control pots_trace side.JPG (1.03 MiB) Viewed 2334 times
above NJU4069UBD and uPC1571C ICs.JPG
above NJU4069UBD and uPC1571C ICs.JPG (940.54 KiB) Viewed 2334 times
above jacks around HD14016BP IC.JPG
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gut shots continued:
PCB trace side global view.JPG
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parts side mini PCB above IC10_NJM4558SD 5k6 22k.JPG
parts side mini PCB above IC10_NJM4558SD 5k6 22k.JPG (805.23 KiB) Viewed 2327 times
parts side mini PCB 182 and 821 ceramic bent up, R32_2k7.JPG
parts side mini PCB 182 and 821 ceramic bent up, R32_2k7.JPG (840.15 KiB) Viewed 2327 times
parts side mini PCB above IC10_NJM4558SD 5k6 22k.JPG
parts side mini PCB above IC10_NJM4558SD 5k6 22k.JPG (805.23 KiB) Viewed 2327 times
parts side mini PCB C33_50V680n alu electro.JPG
parts side mini PCB C33_50V680n alu electro.JPG (752.24 KiB) Viewed 2327 times
parts side mini PCB from front of NJM4558SD op amp.JPG
parts side mini PCB from front of NJM4558SD op amp.JPG (738.39 KiB) Viewed 2327 times
parts side mini PCB near brown ribbon cable 182 ceramic.JPG
parts side mini PCB near brown ribbon cable 182 ceramic.JPG (746.31 KiB) Viewed 2327 times
parts side mini PCB showing 25V4u7 and 50V150n alu electros.JPG
parts side mini PCB showing 25V4u7 and 50V150n alu electros.JPG (765.43 KiB) Viewed 2327 times
parts side mini PCB showing  50V150n alu electro.JPG
parts side mini PCB showing 50V150n alu electro.JPG (752.44 KiB) Viewed 2327 times
parts side of mini PCB with control pots_2.JPG
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parts side of mini PCB with control pots_3.JPG
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parts side of mini PCB with control pots_4 showing 25V4u7 alu electro and 104B pot.JPG
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OUT LEVEL pot 104B diff angle.JPG
OUT LEVEL pot 104B diff angle.JPG (811.5 KiB) Viewed 2327 times
OVERDRIVE pot 500K D.JPG
OVERDRIVE pot 500K D.JPG (804.87 KiB) Viewed 2327 times
OVERDRIVE pot 504D.JPG
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near in out jacks from back of NJM4558SD op amp.JPG
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near in out jacks front side of NJM4558SD and red 154 metal poly cap.JPG
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near NJU4069 IC.JPG
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Never knew they got in on that game ,
i gather if you say you're not sure if it's
working correctly , that you're not impressed with the sound ?
or what do you think ? can you describe the qualities ?

anyway thanks for the work with all the pix
[ love that curvy 70's look of the trace side ]

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Yes, it didn't seem particularly impressive however " *my* setup" of SansAmp into a joemeek preamp isn't working (something is wrong with the joemeek) so possibly it would sound better, but I'm guessing it won't. If you want to listen to somebody's sound clip of one, I found a page:

http://gauze.s297.xrea.com/odb_cod100.htm

(It's from a site where a number of overdrives, distortions, etc. are compared with the same riffs--or at least I think that's the idea.)

The main site:

http://gauze.s297.xrea.com/odbmain.htm

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For a short while i had the E.H. hot tubes
which came from a friend and his description
was one word " Caustic " which i agree
so i think it's easy to make a poor sounding cmos
these days broken sounds are more popular but guessing
this Yamaha comes from the 80's ?

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Post by Dirk_Hendrik »

okgb wrote: [ love that curvy 70's look of the trace side ]
Interesting remark since this is clearly post 70's CAD. :wink:
Sorry. Plain out of planes.

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Post by okgb »

Yes clearly , i said " 70's LOOK "
actually it has a bit of the tron feel to it
[ not your typical Boss anyway ]
but not the total freehand taped look of japenese 60's / 70's
better ?

check out the artwork of the tc eq i posted to the 70's+
not sure of it's era ? but plenty curvy

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mid to late 80s? (not sure. That's my vague recollection from seeing this "plasticky" series in magazine ads.)

There is, apparently the manual avail. on line:

http://files.effectsdatabase.com/docs/m ... od-100.pdf

(Something I wonder is, if (since this thing uses a lot of power) the people at the store tested it with a weak battery, got no sound and therefore they concluded it was "defective". I also got a totally passive A/B/tuner out switcher (also as "junk") which seemed a bit odd (but maybe a switch is bad or something--not sure because I actually haven't tried it yet. Also got a Yamaha Distortion and Guyatone Phaser--all too good to pass up for the price even if defective--which they were (Yamaha was resurrected with a new primary filter cap and batt. snap. Not sure what is wrong with the Guyatone which turns on but isn't passing audio.)

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Curious specs for the yami cmos , wonder why they went for a slightly
different chip then the usual 4049 ?

I think you're on the right track for the others though
check power and continuity , look for obvious physical
things , good score
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I wish i could find a pinout of that NJM4558SD ... I have one but Googled for a SIP 9 package pinout and failed...
I would really love a good datasheet archive without all the crap ads. :blackeye
I want it to sound like bees buzzing around in a 55 gallon drum...

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Da it looks like that... :blackeye Now if I could just find a pinout !!!

I think its pin 1 vCC, 2 A out, 3 A -in, 4 A +in, 5 vEE, 6 B +in, 7 B-in, 8 B out, 9 vCC
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At least, that's what the PINOUT at page 3 of the datasheet says... :wink:

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