MXR EVH 5150 Overdrive

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This looks interesting considering EVH is famous for saying he never used any sort of distortion / overdrive pedal.

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The MXR design team has collaborated with Eddie Van Halen to deliver a full range of powerful saturation and hyper-driven tones right at your feet. The resulting EVH 5150 Overdrive joins hand-adjusted multi-stage MOSFETs with a full complement of controls to deliver overdriven tube-like tones and exceptional sonic flexibility through a wide variety of amps and speaker cabinets.

Whether on stage or in the studio, the EVH 5150 Overdrive’s controls dial up the whole spectrum—from Eddie’s groundbreaking early classic tones to the high gain, super-articulate sound he uses today. Output and Gain controls set your volume and distortion levels, while the 3-band passive tone stack EQ section shapes your sound to taste. The Boost switch kicks the 5150 Overdrive into high gear with extra gain and compression, and the Gate control—powered by the Smart Gate circuit—tames unwanted noise.

The EVH 5150 Overdrive features true bypass switching and comes in a road-worthy housing emblazoned with custom EVH artwork.


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~ Designed in close collaboration with Eddie Van Halen.
~ Delivers a full range of powerful saturation via multi-stage MOSFETs.
~ Features 3-band EQ section for versatile tweakability.
~ Boost switch adds extra gain and compression.
~ Gate control tames unwanted noise.
~ Sounds great through a wide variety of amps and speaker cabs.

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Something like the ZVEX box of rock?

Gate can be found in the Box of metal :)
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This could be very interesting indeed, perhaps an improved take on the AMT P1?
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I wonder what hand-adjusted MOSFETs means? Hand picked / selected maybe?

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Trimmers? Bend them by hand to fit the holes?
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Gate on an Overdrive? ................. That's like a wheelie bar on a Pinto ... Shouldn't be necessary.

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So the effect is just very noisy
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More details, this time from the PGS website:

It's here: THE definitive EVH overdrive, courtesy of Dunlop. The 5150 Overdrive was developed by Dunlop engineer Bob Cedro in conjunction with Eddie himself. It pretty much nails Eddie’s tone, and this isn’t hyperbole—Eddie himself agrees.

The story goes like this: Bob Cedro, one of Dunlop’s top engineers, was hard at work nailing Eddie’s tone. After several prototypes and revisions, a day came where Eddie and Bob sat at Dunlop HQ. Eddie brought all his gear to test the 5150 Overdrive side by side with his actual rig, and sat with his back turned to Bob and the gear. Bob carefully dialed in the 5150 Overdrive and it reached a point where Eddie couldn’t tell.

“Is that my gear or the pedal?” Eddie asked.

“You tell me,” said Bob.

Thus, the 5150 was born—the closest approximation to Eddie’s tone on the market. Six knobs adorn the 5150 Overdrive: Gain, Volume, a full three-band EQ (Bass, Mid, Treble) as well as a handy Gate knob for dialing out noise that normally accompanies high-gain pedals. The range of the knobs are very robust; the EQ knobs are very dramatic and the Gain knob’s range is especially dynamic.

The onboard Boost switch kicks the 5150 into high-gain territory, by adding a generous gain boost that seems to add to everything, rather than adding to the total gain by subtracting tone.

All in all, we doubt you’ll be able to find a better pedal for copping EVH tones. Not even Eddie could tell the difference.

RRP $199.99

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I would guess it might be an angle on a DS1or DIST+ type circuit with a mu BSIAB/booster type of thing involved plus the noise gate along with a TMB tone stack.
It's fairly straight forward, if you want to start it , press start. You can work out the rest of the controls for yourself !

No silicon heaven ? preposterous ! Where would all the calculators go ?

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Or maybe a MOSFET-based BSIAB mu-amp arrangement with a TMB tonestack. Somene will crack one open at some stage for a peek at the SMDs in all thier glory.

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Yes the description on the MXR website says.

Designed in close collaboration with Eddie Van Halen
Features multi-stage MOSFETs, 3-band EQ, Boost switch, and Gate
Extremely versatile
It's fairly straight forward, if you want to start it , press start. You can work out the rest of the controls for yourself !

No silicon heaven ? preposterous ! Where would all the calculators go ?

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I wonder if any of the tone stack found in the actual 5150 III amp will feature in the pedal:

https://sites.google.com/site/jimificat ... schematics

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Post by okgb »

This coming from the company that issued that awful CAE overdrive pedal ,
I don't think slash uses his " signature " gear either, Every couple of years Ed seems to need another
" look at me , I'm still relevant " [ and around ] endorsement

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Dunlop do seem to get more than their fair share of headline guitarists in terms of endorsements.

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FuzzMonkey wrote:Dunlop do seem to get more than their fair share of headline guitarists in terms of endorsements.
That's because they throw their money around to get the endorsements. You'll have noticed that their (fairly ordinary) pedals are 50 - 100% more expensive than their competitors - this is so that they can pay for the celebrity endorsements!
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The proof is in the pudding...

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J0K3RX wrote:The proof is in the pudding...
I prefer this one:



Defeats the purpose don't you think?

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Post by J0K3RX »

Of course Ola... His sound actually sounds a bit different on this one which is rare, because usually everything he plays sound the same..


I want to hear it directly into a power amp damn-it! :evil:

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great sound...

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Not bad; not bad at all.

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