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Post by 22uf »

http://fullmoonamps.com/fraternity.htm

Only $222 - gets you another re-packaged RAT. Most likely built on a BYOC PCB or - they just ripped off the layout.


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i dig those knobs :)
The simple non-labelled controls are cool at first but soon you realize it's a pain in the ass to remember which is the volume control :scratch: so i don't do that anymore.

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Post by MoreCowbell »

Build a Rat

Add the "Ruetz mod"

Add a rotary switch to control clipping diodes/mosfets/LEDs (as per Dano - http://www.beavisaudio.com ... http://www.beavisaudio.com/Projects/FKR ... rMouse.gif )

should get you close ...at the very least

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I can assure everyone that it is not a BYOC board in there. Nor does it look anything like the BYOC board. I did the layout and the PCB work is 100% original. Props to Donner for giving credit where credit is due. The PCB is super high quality with ground planes, plated through holes, thick traces, and I know what components Donner is putting in there and this is a great build. There are builders who blatently rip off others designs then make claims like "unique circuit", "2 1/2 years of development", "I started with a clean sheet of paper", etc when all they did was steal and then claim originality.

Do we need another RAT clone out there? perhaps not, but as far as I know it's the only Rat clone that comes in a Donnerbox. As we all know, there are no two Donnerboxes that look the same.

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fucking ugly box, looks like something liberace would of used

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Post by Donnerbox »

Hmmm well that didnt take long :mrgreen:

Yeah its just a Rat, move along, nothing to see here -- next :thumbsup

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Post by foxfire »

i like the box but, whatever. guess i'm gay?
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alteredsounds wrote:fucking ugly box, looks like something liberace would of used
Beat me to it. :applause:
I so dislike the modern digital world that I need to use semi-digital effects to emulate the analog world of cassette, VHS, and vinyl.

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Donnerbox wrote:Hmmm well that didnt take long :mrgreen:
Never does around here !

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Post by Greg »

alteredsounds wrote:fucking ugly box, looks like something liberace would of used
Agreed... :mrgreen:

...and to be honest, Donner is the last guy I'd be buying a cloned pedal from.

Cow4prez, the knobs are the same as used on the Clay Jones OD. Banzai and others sell them.
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jfromel wrote:thick traces
This automatically makes it a 'good PCB'? Ok.
As we all know, there are no two Donnerboxes that look the same.
Most people aren't 'the same' either, still yet a whole bunch of them are idiots. :mrgreen:

I'm not sure why Donner has been singled out here. Perhaps I should read the old posts here more.

I like a lot of the paint designs. And I'm not gay - not that there's anything wrong with it. In fact, I'm sure there are a whole bunch of gay guitarists who might like to have some products targetted at them, Hmmmm ... :hmmm:

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alteredsounds wrote:fucking ugly box, looks like something liberace would of used
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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yes I know many of you think it frivolous to put art on a pedal and you may be right, but I like it and hey at least its not shiny swirlz !!! .... 8)

The Fraternity, like its name is built around a Rat - it was begun as a drive channel for the amps we are going to be building - I wanted a versatile Marshall type distortion so the Rat is the best place to start...... and Ive wanted to combine two of my favorite pedals for a long time - the Ibanez Fat Cat (Rat +) ~ my main distortion from the 80s and the FatBox (D+ with diode rotary) from the mid 90s and added a variation on the Ruetz mod (thanks to Dano and Phil) ....

theres a whole crap load of clipping variations - everyone of those pedals is different .... theres a few new clip combos and some EQ tweeking and I like the layout a lot , but its just a very well built versatile distortion in a unique box that will mate well with our amps and many more - nothing earth shattering, just distortion



the company is called Full Moon as its more than just me (Donnerbox) - I wanted the 'mooniest' looking round knobs :D , those are from Mouser..... I used them on the Donnerbox Spatial Delays also


so theres the short version if you give a rats ass ( :mrgreen: )

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Lets see a gutshot..

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So J. Fromel If you designed the Circuit board , Who is the brains behind the Product? You or Donner ? Just curious why Donner wasn't able to do this himself. Or are you both taking Credit For it (Collaboration)? I am not "trying" to be an ass, as I know you offer the Lush and a Green Ringer Clone. You also have put some work into both by designing the boards and tailoring sound which I like. I havent seen a Dimension-2 in about 15 years. So somewhat unique offering by you :thumbsup . but why is Donner's First offer only soldered and painted by him. If He is gonna offer a clone the hard part has been done already at least create His own Board layout if not anything else .... What makes this a $222 pedal (thats almost 2 Barber pedals) ? and who does that money go to? are you getting a Kickback For your Time? At least Donner has a Decent Reputation in the Buttkick ...bootsqueak....Buckwheat....BeenDone....Hell i cant even say it anymore!!!..... Nice Box market. and that should get him sales for sure .. Maybe Even you if people know you helped out with it.

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Donnerbox wrote:


the company is called Full Moon as its more than just me (Donnerbox) - I wanted the 'mooniest' looking round knobs :D , those are from Mouser..... I used them on the Donnerbox Spatial Delays also

well that kinda answers some questions.. But really a Delay?? Who is Doing the Schematic Hunt....I mean R&D.. are you basing it on a Bucket Brigade or PT2399? Analog or Digital? I personaly Like the Analog of the PT2399 over that Digital sounding stuff.. But hey thats just me... :secret:

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22uf wrote:Lets see a gutshot..
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k your turn :wink:

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Donnerbox wrote:
22uf wrote:Lets see a gutshot..
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k your turn :wink:
ok that is funny :ROFL

I would but mine has lint in it right now , I am saving it for Christmas..

*edit* sorry I had the F bomb and Christmas in the same paragraph just didnt feel right..

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Skinpimp wrote:
Donnerbox wrote:


the company is called Full Moon as its more than just me (Donnerbox) - I wanted the 'mooniest' looking round knobs :D , those are from Mouser..... I used them on the Donnerbox Spatial Delays also

well that kinda answers some questions.. But really a Delay?? Who is Doing the Schematic Hunt....I mean R&D.. are you basing it on a Bucket Brigade or PT2399? Analog or Digital? I personaly Like the Analog of the PT2399 over that Digital sounding stuff.. But hey thats just me... :secret:
Oh the Spatial Delay was a couple years ago - I dumped it as everyone was starting to come out with delays, not sure if the Youtube demo is still up , but it has a cool modulation section and I havent heard another like it so I may do some more for Full Moon - its a 2399 tweek I spec'd with fellow St. Louisians 4ms who do some cool modulation stuff ......

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Post by Skinpimp »

4MS stuff is way out there cool.. I was browsing there site a while back and started to get the Chainlink fence effect looking at all those knobs. :shock:

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