new hendrix fuzzface

swankmotee · Post by **swankmotee** » 24 Feb 2008, 19:23

All I know is, the overall fuzz tone is dense, and enharmonically brown like a great germainium device but yet still has the character of a silicon version. Best part of all is the perfect flute like definition from the neck pup on the Strat which seems to be elusive with other boutique versions i've tried as well as some of my own originals. Whatever the tweaks...it works perfectly! I, like many others have had NO faith in most of what Dunlop has produced in the name of JH but this box really does the deal just like it's supposed to do! It also looks great with the green, original pebbled surface!:applause:

drasp · Post by **drasp** » 28 Sep 2008, 15:03

Yeah, I ditched my 2 Headed Monsterpiece after getting the JH-F1 with the intention of flipping. Running into my HIWATT, it's easily one of the best fuzz experiences I've ever had. Totally in love, one of my favorite pedals.

Ghandi · Post by **Ghandi** » 28 Sep 2008, 17:04

has anybody done a schematic jet?

MoreCowbell · Post by **MoreCowbell** » 29 Sep 2008, 05:14

Ghandi wrote:has anybody done a schematic jet?

If you ask really nicely, AG might PM it to you

floris · Post by **floris** » 29 Sep 2008, 09:23

I'm also interested in the details of its components if people think it sounds so nice.

What I could find it is a 1969/70 Dallas Arbiter Fuzz Face build around a BC108 NPN silicon transistor and has the "Hendrix Voodoo sound". This transistor has a hFE between 110 and 800 which i think is quite high for a fuzz face. (Details from a Dutch store: http://www.peterverspuy.nl/cgi-bin/x/15283.html)
Schematics are easy to find:
http://fuzzcentral.ssguitar.com/fuzzface.php
http://fuzzcentral.ssguitar.com/fuzzfac ... ematic.gif

EDIT:
Arrggg... didn't see the whole first page of this topic so my info is pretty redundant...

nooneknows · Post by **nooneknows** » 29 Sep 2008, 12:18

Sorry guys, since I can't see any picture linked by the posts before, are you talking about the circuit this thread below is about?
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1727

thank you
Marcello

Post by **modman** » 29 Sep 2008, 13:03

swankmotee wrote:I just tried one of these out the other day at the LMS and it sounds GREAT! It's one of the best tuned BC108 faces I've ever heard and I've got 6 originals, four being BC's and the new one sounds better!DAYMN!! I'm buyin' it and proudly mounting it on the pedalboard!

Before you do, please take some good hi res gut shots of both sides of the pcb - because all the images in this thread are down.

Peepz, don't hesistate to attach files, webspace galore....

But do check this thread for the JHF1 schematic:
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1727

floris · Post by **floris** » 30 Sep 2008, 16:47

So the extra trimmers for the transistors are all that is needed to "tune" such a fuzz face into a good "Hendrix fuzz sound"?

swankmotee · Post by **swankmotee** » 30 Sep 2008, 17:32

floris wrote:So the extra trimmers for the transistors are all that is needed to "tune" such a fuzz face into a good "Hendrix fuzz sound"?

I definitely played with them a good bit until I got the best blend of fuzz and gain from them. Their touchy though because of their small size so you need to be gentle with them because they'll loose contact easily and you'll have no signal. Makes it a bit more fun getting the bias set where you like it so play around and see if you hear a usable difference, I sure did!

Lawnchair · Post by **Lawnchair** » 30 Sep 2008, 22:21

Those trimmers move if you look at them wrong. I got different readings every time I measured. Took a minute to realize that the probes were moving the screws. VR1 9k7 VR2 557 Just for the F' of it here's a vid of my Toy Box mimicing the JH-F1

nooneknows · Post by **nooneknows** » 01 Oct 2008, 10:29

Any chance to know what type of BC108/BC107 is in the pedal? A, B, or C?
Hfe varies in a wide range from A to C

swankmotee · Post by **swankmotee** » 01 Oct 2008, 13:35

nooneknows wrote:Any chance to know what type of BC108/BC107 is in the pedal? A, B, or C?
Hfe varies in a wide range from A to C

They are just labled BC108 with no letter designation. Have to yank them out sometime and check their hfe's.
T

Ghandi · Post by **Ghandi** » 01 Oct 2008, 15:47

so I did some changes to my silicon fuzz, which I never really liked...
better, way better in fact the best silcon fuzz I have hered so far!

@Lawnchair
have you mesured the voltages on the transistors?

with the 22k at the collector of q1 I can only get it to 1,28V on the collector
ideal for a fuzz would be 0,5V?!

oh, and thanks for that schematic AG!

theehman · Post by **theehman** » 02 Oct 2008, 01:48

JHS wrote:Just another overpriced FF, named after JH for marketing purpose.

JD bought the right to use the name JH and the customers have to pay their share.

JHS

Does having the JH name automatically make it more valuable? How about these pedals:

album: http://picasaweb.google.com/theehman/JH ... GGMZV36GE#

drasp · Post by **drasp** » 02 Oct 2008, 02:54

I'd totally hit that FY-2! If you're looking to sell or trade it, just let me know!!!

nooneknows · Post by **nooneknows** » 02 Oct 2008, 08:06

JHS wrote:Just another overpriced FF, named after JH for marketing purpose.

At least this one sounds decent, early 90's versions sounded awful...

swankmotee · Post by **swankmotee** » 02 Oct 2008, 15:02

JHS wrote:Just another overpriced FF, named after JH for marketing purpose.

JD bought the right to use the name JH and the customers have to pay their share.

JHS

Wha? It's only $130.00 here in Nashvegas which certainly makes it affordable! Soundz great and looks kool, whats not to love?!

PurplePeopleEater · Post by **PurplePeopleEater** » 02 Oct 2008, 15:37

swankmotee wrote:
JHS wrote:Just another overpriced FF, named after JH for marketing purpose.

JD bought the right to use the name JH and the customers have to pay their share.

JHS
Wha? It's only $130.00 here in Nashvegas which certainly makes it affordable! Soundz great and looks kool, whats not to love?!

REGULAR FUZZ FACE @ MF = $99

JIMI HENDRIX FUZZ FACE @ MF = $149

The extra $50 is for the name "Jimi Hendrix" on it.

swankmotee · Post by **swankmotee** » 02 Oct 2008, 15:49

PurplePeopleEater wrote:
swankmotee wrote:
JHS wrote:Just another overpriced FF, named after JH for marketing purpose.

JD bought the right to use the name JH and the customers have to pay their share.

JHS
Wha? It's only $130.00 here in Nashvegas which certainly makes it affordable! Soundz great and looks kool, whats not to love?!

REGULAR FUZZ FACE @ MF = $99

JIMI HENDRIX FUZZ FACE @ MF = $149

The extra $50 is for the name "Jimi Hendrix" on it.

No, the extra $50 is for a Dunlop product that was actually developed correctly and soundz worth a shit! The other model isn't worth $5 because it soundz like ass!! Get over the JH thing because we all like it whether you do or not@!

PurplePeopleEater · Post by **PurplePeopleEater** » 02 Oct 2008, 20:33

swankmotee wrote:
PurplePeopleEater wrote:
swankmotee wrote:
JHS wrote:Just another overpriced FF, named after JH for marketing purpose.

JD bought the right to use the name JH and the customers have to pay their share.

JHS
Wha? It's only $130.00 here in Nashvegas which certainly makes it affordable! Soundz great and looks kool, whats not to love?!

REGULAR FUZZ FACE @ MF = $99

JIMI HENDRIX FUZZ FACE @ MF = $149

The extra $50 is for the name "Jimi Hendrix" on it.
No, the extra $50 is for a Dunlop product that was actually developed correctly and soundz worth a shit! The other model isn't worth $5 because it soundz like ass!! Get over the JH thing because we all like it whether you do or not@!

The parts for the Hendrix model are less expensive than the standard. If you can easily build the JH model for the same cost as the standard, then what makes up the difference ? The name "Jimi Hendrix".

"Development costs" ? You're kidding, right ? It's a standard silicon Fuzz Face with a couple of standard tweaks. Look on DIY stomp and they're all there, and have been for years.

As for your attitude toward me, it matters not - and I NEVER said I didn''t like the JH Fuzz Face ( you ASSUMED that) - only that the $50 extra is for the name alone.