HH electronics - Clockwork Concubine  [schematic]

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Post by Dirk_Hendrik »

I could have bumped an older topic but prefer a new one.
The concubine has been discussed but it does not seem that people have hands on experience playing the thing. Not so strange since it needs to be connected to an HH amplifier (which I don't have) in order to be powered and get signal.

I've reversed one but expect more errors to show up. The design topology is everything but conventional, as an example.

However, here's the job so far. It's a flanger and uses a SAD1024. Other than that there's little similatities to the Mistress.

https://www.dirk-hendrik.com/temp/clockw ... cubine.pdf
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Great! :D

So can you tell me how to make an adaptor cable for audio in, audio out and power? :D

(if I can find a connector that fits...)
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Dirk_Hendrik wrote:I could have bumped an older topic but prefer a new one.
The concubine has been discussed but it does not seem that people have hands on experience playing the thing. Not so strange since it needs to be connected to an HH amplifier (which I don't have) in order to be powered and get signal.

I've reversed one but expect more errors to show up. The design topology is everything but conventional, as an example.

However, here's the job so far. It's a flanger and uses a SAD1024. Other than that there's little similatities to the Mistress.

https://www.dirk-hendrik.com/temp/clockw ... cubine.pdf
I think I have the actual HH schematic for this. I bought a service manual a couple of years ago when I got my Clockwork Concubine.
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I have a HH amp if something of that is needed.......
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Bernardduur wrote:I have a HH amp if something of that is needed.......
I could use information about the pins in that cable if you know something about that...
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DiscoFreq wrote:
Bernardduur wrote:I have a HH amp if something of that is needed.......
I could use information about the pins in that cable if you know something about that...
I'll check when I am in the rehearsal room tomorrow!
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hi dirk ,how are you
im fritz from jakarta...your website is brilliant
and everybody here would help me
i've just got a HH CLOCKWORK CONCUBINE
i really have no idea about where the one of the guitar input jack ?,where the one of output jack ?and where the power supply socket jack i used to call....?and how big voltage needed to operate this pedal ? 9 / 12 volt adapter or 110 / 220 volt ?


i really really need your helped to tell me how to use this pedal correctly :(

thanks ,GBU ,have a nice day
best regards ,fritz

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Post by Bernardduur »

Hmmm, forgot to reply.

Searched the amp but I can't differ it from the outside. When my guitarist uses my new build amp I'll check out his HH!
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Post by bajaman »

Hi Dirk - I have several factory HH schematics - what model of HH amplifier were these Clockwork Concubines used with??
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:oops:
No clue... The Clockwork Orange is the only HH product I have.
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thanks :(

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Not the best quality, but this should help. This came from my H&H Service Manual.
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Thanks Ron!!
Poor quality scan indeed but with my drawing and the real thing here I should be able to fill in the blanks. Much appreciated!
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Post by lasermonkey »

Just scored one on eBay! When it arrives I'll take some gut shots and try to work out some kind of interface box.

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Here are some innards.

This pedal is quite tricky to dismantle...

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Post by Professor SourTone »

It works. I think the cable is the original one, too.

Sort of OK, but much prefer the E.Mistress. Would be interesting into a valve amp - there's a line out on the IC100 so could try that. It does a kind of rotary speaker thing, the metallic stuff, but not much else. The reverb switches on and off ok but again the reverb itself is so-so

The amp would be ok for spiky rhythm work, which is why I guess Bolan and Wilko Johnson liked them.

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Post by akestromer »

Has anyone here figured out the voltages on these things?

I got one over 10 years ago and started looking for the schematic, emailed the maj electronics people but never heard back. I had given up until I saw this thread.

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Post by rs »

I think it runs on 18v. I modded one some 8 years ago, but i dont remember the voltage for sure.

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Post by akestromer »

I found the schematic for the HH VS Musician that has the effects DIN connector.
Looks like it's feeding the pedals +-48v. Does that sound familiar?
If so I'm afraid that's the end of this project...

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