Toneczar - Openhaus (anyone dissected yet?)

ubersam · Post by **ubersam** » 04 Dec 2007, 19:12

When I first heard about this pedal, I though it might be a JFET-for-tube type circuit, like the DR Boogey DIY project. But, I have read that it uses opamps. Opamps-for-tubes? Anyway, just really curious about that circuit. Anyone analized it yet?

seniorLoco · Post by **seniorLoco** » 05 Dec 2007, 03:09

that it uses opamps

might just be a couple of LM386

It's pricy ...not so popular ...so lets wait and see

ultar · Post by **ultar** » 07 Dec 2007, 05:46

well....it looks cool. can't say much about the sound as the clips on the tone czar site do nothing to represent what the pedal is capable of.

from the manual it seems to be a versatile pedal but in the 7+ months since i first visited that site there still isn't anything more than a cheesy "tv jingle" sample made by a customer. why pay $375 for a pedal without hearing a decent example of it's capabilities?

seniorLoco · Post by **seniorLoco** » 07 Dec 2007, 08:41

no no no ....its like tone for celestial beings !!

It's something never been done before

gkaiomenos · Post by **gkaiomenos** » 07 Dec 2007, 19:41

seniorLoco wrote:
that it uses opamps
might just be a couple of LM386

It's pricy ...not so popular ...so lets wait and see

yap just like the krank distorttus maximus does (1 tranny + 1 lm386)

CS Jones · Post by **CS Jones** » 07 Dec 2007, 21:18

That is a pedal put out by one of the patron saints of the early DIY internet effort, Ed Rembold. We all lost a great deal when he decided to pack it in and go it alone. He would be one of the few I'd wish the greatest success for. The guy behind this one ain't like the rest. He helped build the foundation on which we are now standing.

frank.clarke · Post by **frank.clarke** » 07 Dec 2007, 22:42

Yup, Plexiland was a great circuit, I liked Ed`s Tone Czar schems.

ubersam · Post by **ubersam** » 08 Dec 2007, 00:02

frank.clarke wrote:Yup, Plexiland was a great circuit, I liked Ed`s Tone Czar schems.

Was that Plexiland a DIY project?

frank.clarke · Post by **frank.clarke** » 08 Dec 2007, 01:36

Plexiland was a schem for a dual minibooster with a dual gain control pot that fiddled with the bias. It sounded great for higain solo stuff. Ed got disgusted with people not respecting the confidentiality. So ask Ed for the schem

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But his designs were good stuff, I would expect his pedals to be excellent and novel designs.

Post by **modman** » 09 Dec 2007, 10:09

Whoismarykelly wrote:Youll probably have a hard time finding one to open up. All Toneczar products have a label that requests users to not post photos on the internet. Given the wait and cost, I think there is a certain amount of fear that posting a photo might void a warranty or something silly like that. Its not particularly easy to get inside anyway. PCBs are solderside up and secured with insulated and spring-loaded screws. The field of braided wires that connects everything holds the PCB down as well. Construction quality was top notch but also notably boutique. No solder mask on the board and very close traces on the Echoczar that I got inside. It looked like it was begging for solder bridges to me so that alone is pretty good testament to the builders skill.

Why don't you share some pictures? Where do I find that spec sheet that says this:

"No aluminum electrolytic caps in the signal path. No internal trim pots, DIP switches, socketed parts, ribbon wire or connectors. Instead - thru-plated, FR-4 pcb, Mil-spec components, hand soldered, hand wired, Scope Tested and Tuned... Openhaus does not use any form of 'diode-connected' components, either to ground, or in a feedback-loop. Openhaus does contain four dual opamps, but they are operating in a linear mode. No more design/tech info will be given."

didn't find it here:
http://www.toneczareffects.com/index.htm

Old 01-10-2007, 09:01 AM
Ed Rembold
"why would I release anything new, if I can't keep up with the current demand?"

........can be best explained by the simple fact that something I need for one or more of my products is on backorder, a substitute part is shipped instead, defective parts are shipped instead, or the part ordered is no longer available. This effectively stops production of what I'm trying to build until I can get the parts I want.

Those who follow the effects forums know that the new production BBD's I used in the echoczar are no longer in production, Do you think that this would cause a delay? of course it did.

I am doing the best I know how, and I'm learning from my mistakes, and I think that the wait-list will get shorter, because people grow tired of waiting, and many new exciting products are coming out. If the echolution is a big hit, I'm sure the echoczar wait-list will disappear !

hope this helps,
Ed R.
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Marquis de Solder · Post by **Marquis de Solder** » 09 Dec 2007, 10:36

modman wrote:Where do I find that spec sheet that says this:

"No aluminum electrolytic caps in the signal path. No internal trim pots, DIP switches, socketed parts, ribbon wire or connectors. Instead - thru-plated, FR-4 pcb, Mil-spec components, hand soldered, hand wired, Scope Tested and Tuned... Openhaus does not use any form of 'diode-connected' components, either to ground, or in a feedback-loop. Openhaus does contain four dual opamps, but they are operating in a linear mode. No more design/tech info will be given."
didn't find it here:

You didn't look hard enough

Click the "features" link on the openhaus page.

bajaman · Post by **bajaman** » 09 Dec 2007, 21:24

This forum seemed rad at first but now it seems bitter and spiteful

You could not be further from the truth - keep looking - check out the other sections - DIY projects, pimp my cheap pedal etc.
most of the contributors (not talkers and lurking leachers) do so in a very unspiteful manner - relax, you just got here

Enjoy the many things that are here for you.
bajaman

$uperpuma · Post by **$uperpuma** » 09 Dec 2007, 21:34

I dont own any of his pedals and I dont know that I would share that kind of stuff if I did. This forum seemed rad at first but now it seems bitter and spiteful. If you want to trace some toneczar pedals, youre best bet is to get on them list and wait a few months.

Post by **modman** » 09 Dec 2007, 23:20

I think what Clay is referring to is Ed contributions to ampage, or was he already active in earlier newsgroups?

http://archive.ampage.org/authors/Ed%20Rembold-1.html

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bajaman wrote:
whoismarykelly wrote:This forum seemed rad at first but now it seems bitter and spiteful
You could not be further from the truth - keep looking - check out the other sections - DIY projects, pimp my cheap pedal etc.
most of the contributors (not talkers and lurking leachers) do so in a very unspiteful manner - relax, you just got here
Enjoy the many things that are here for you.
bajaman

whoismarykelly wrote:I dont own any of his pedals and I dont know that I would share that kind of stuff if I did. This forum seemed rad at first but now it seems bitter and spiteful. If you want to trace some toneczar pedals, youre best bet is to get on them list and wait a few months.

Post by **Saruman** » 19 Jun 2009, 17:46

In Openhaus - 4 TL072 + mu-jfet +2 Ge transistor distortion. But i dont know about this Ge transistors!

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evil.joe · Post by **evil.joe** » 21 Jul 2009, 15:35

Anyone have schem for this? Gut Pics? Layout?

tube-exorcist · Post by **tube-exorcist** » 21 Jul 2009, 17:06

evil.joe wrote:Anyone have schem for this? Gut Pics? Layout?

What do YOU have to offer ?

evil.joe · Post by **evil.joe** » 21 Jul 2009, 17:51

Sorry, but nothing really.

I fully understand Your question, but I live in 3rd world country, and the only thing we see here is usual boss and digitech stuff. And even if I collect that kind of money, I will have BIG problems with transporting and selling the pedal after tracing. For that money I could by an amp here (allready have that, so I need best distortion in a box, and judging from the internet reviews, this is it). Didn't mean anything rude.

culturejam · Post by **culturejam** » 21 Jul 2009, 19:23

evil.joe wrote: Didn't mean anything rude.

Don't worry about it.

Just for future reference: if you don't see gut shots or a schematic in the thread, then we ain't got it.

tube-exorcist · Post by **tube-exorcist** » 21 Jul 2009, 19:36

What do YOU have to offer ?
Sorry, but nothing really. I fully understand Your question, but I live in 3rd world country, .....

A nice "Hello" (in the first post) is something affordable even in a 3rd world country, isn´t it ?

... the only thing we see here is usual boss and digitech stuff.

Even this can be interesting or pedals made in your region....

And even if I collect that kind of money, I will have BIG problems with transporting and selling the pedal after tracing. For that money I could by an amp here (allready have that, so I need best distortion in a box, and judging from the internet reviews, this is it).

My personal tip:
Forget the internet reviews - that´s only a kind of fashion.

Not one of the great guitarists used a Toneczar Openhaus. If you can play guitar, you can make a Boss or Digitech pedal "sing and swing" too. If you can´t play guitar, the Toneczar Openhaus won´t help you.

I am pretty sure that the schematic of the Toneczar
Openhaus will appear in this thread after someone has traced it. Unfortunately noone has traced it yet.

In the meantime use your time, energy and money to improve your guitar playing skills.

Here is a little wallpaper for you - that´s the only thing I got right now: