Alembic - SF-2
Posted: 20 Sep 2010, 19:25
I looked all over the web and I can't find a schematic for this preamp. Anyody know where I can find one? I emailed Alemic and never got a reply






+1, I really really like their basses, but they are milking their brand to the limit. Look at the price of their onboard electronics, insane. 1600USD for two twopole filters and two mixing stages.phatt wrote: Floppin hang chaps,, these brand names are just so overratted![]()
but hey brandnames $$$$$ SELL $$$$$
Phil.
In which case you may wish to build a ParaEQ circuit and compare it with your SVF.PaulBass wrote:phatt wrote:Hey man , it's just 2 Para EQ circuits with a couple of extras thrown in.
I wanted to compare it to the SVF filter I built
Arrh Good point. Obviously I've got the wrong end of the Bull ay?Jarno wrote:The SF-2 is actually 2 State Variable Filters. A parametric eq doesn't give you the LP,BP and HP options the SF-2 has.
TI sent me a couple of UAF42's as samples and I didn't care for the sound. they were kinda noisy and hissy. I got better results with LT1359 and TLE2074's.Jarno wrote:Came across some interesting info, apparently the sf2 does have state variable filters, but of the monolythic kind.
UAF42 is a specialised ic for filter applications.
I have a couple thinking that they could be interesting (for synth vcf applications), but when i tried to find info, the consensus was that they are not very suited for audio applications.
Apparently not so, Alembic is quite known for fidelity.
Pricey too, i think i paid something like 3.50usd per ic. Bollocks really, for a quad opamp with some caps.
"resistively tuned" = with a potentiometerThe SF-2 filter circuit is a resistively tuned two-pole universal active filters, which yields 12 dB/Oct ultimate slopes in the high-pass and low-pass modes, and 6 dB/Oct ultimate slopes in the band-pass mode.


wow a Badringer, they are known to use the cheapest junk components because all their products are disposable. I would gut out the entire PCB board. maybe the pots aren't that crappytube-exorcist wrote:
I think by modding them I can save a lot of money.....
I don´t know which components you normally use, but Rohm metalfilm resistors, Wima capacitors and LM833 aren´t that bad. As you can see in the picture in this old series there were used these high quality components. So don´t believe all rumours you read on the net.PaulBass wrote:wow a Badringer, they are known to use the cheapest junk components because all their products are disposable. I would gut out the entire PCB board. maybe the pots aren't that crappytube-exorcist wrote:
I think by modding them I can save a lot of money.....
No, 2 pole means 2nd order filter, not stereo (ganged). That's where the 6dB/Octave comes in. A first order filter is 6dB/Octave. 2nd order would be 12bB/Octavetube-exorcist wrote: ↑04 Mar 2013, 14:48
Alembic reveals on their website:"resistively tuned" = with a potentiometerThe SF-2 filter circuit is a resistively tuned two-pole universal active filters, which yields 12 dB/Oct ultimate slopes in the high-pass and low-pass modes, and 6 dB/Oct ultimate slopes in the band-pass mode.
"two pole .... filter" = stereo potentiometer
"6db/Oct ... in the band-pass mode": really ? at which "Damping Ratio" ?
State variable bandwidth isn't determined by Q. It's really not a bandpass filter. There's a band that gets passed, but the slope of the filter sections do not vary. Think of it more like 2 overlapping filters, rather than a single stage where the reactance/resistance ratio changes. Like 2 shelving filters, except they have gain.george giblet wrote: ↑23 Oct 2020, 15:24 It's going to be a state-variable filter for sure. It's going to be a second order filter for low-pass, high-pass *and* band-pass.
The second order low-pass and high-pass are naturally 12db/oct
The 6dB/oct band-pass doesn't make sense. The slope of a band-pass filter depends on the Q. If the Q is less than 0.5 the slope is 6dB/oct as the band-pass is like a first-order low-pass + first-order high-pass. For Q. > 0.5 the slope depends on the Q. High Q band-passes have narrow band-widths and high slopes - think of a 1/3 rd octave equalizer.
I read Damping Ratio *Reciprocal* as being related to the Q. The term Damping Ratio Reciprocal is not conventional and it creates an unnecessary ambiguity for the meaning. Damping = 1/(2Q), so mathematically damping ratio reciprocal could mean 2Q. If the control is 1 to 10 then Q could be 1/2 to 5. If the control was just Q outright then the Q would be 1 to 10.
Not true at all. The state variable filter isn't not like two overlapping filters. It is *one filter* with separate output for low-pass, high-pass and band-pass. The band-pass output of a state variable filter is often used in parametric equalizers. Parametric equalizers allow the Q to be varied.State variable bandwidth isn't determined by Q. It's really not a bandpass filter. There's a band that gets passed, but the slope of the filter sections do not vary. Think of it more like 2 overlapping filters, rather than a single stage where the reactance/resistance ratio changes. Like 2 shelving filters, except they have gain
I made an account just to comment on this.mauman wrote: ↑16 Jun 2022, 05:04 I forgot to provide the bench-test frequency response of the clean (unfiltered) signal in the pedal adaptation. It's quite flat. With a 200 mV p-p input, relative to 1 kHz, with the Preamp level knob fully counterclockwise (gain = 1), the -1 dB points at the output are 13 Hz and 41.7 kHz. With the Preamp level knob fully clockwise (gain = 10), the -1 dB points are 14 Hz and 26.5 kHz.