6N16B True tube overdrive with SMPS supply

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Hey guys just made my dream come true :) a tube overdrive with 300v anode voltage from a 12v supply. The base schematic is from Matchless Hot Box (i used a BigMuff tone controll from RG site), it's also has a volume and gain controll. The SMPS it's based on a NIXIE design but i modify it so the 555 will oscillate at a higher freq. (about 40-45kHz). Some pictures and a sound clip that was recorded useing a ROG Condor cabsim. I'm waiting for your opinion (also if someone is intrested i will post all the schematics that i used and also the PCB design - they are made from 0 by me).

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http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15275178/Pictur ... rDrive.mp3

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DarkRain wrote:Hey guys just made my dream come true :) a tube overdrive with 300v anode voltage from a 12v supply. The base schematic is from Matchless Hot Box (i used a BigMuff tone controll from RG site), it's also has a volume and gain controll. The SMPS it's based on a NIXIE design but i modify it so the 555 will oscillate at a higher freq. (about 40-45kHz). Some pictures and a sound clip that was recorded useing a ROG Condor cabsim. I'm waiting for your opinion (also if someone is intrested i will post all the schematics that i used and also the PCB design - they are made from 0 by me).

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http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15275178/Pictur ... rDrive.mp3

I like it !

The gain isn't so "over the top" maybe the BMP tone control is taming it down a bit - but I do like it a lot.

Where was gain set on your clips ?

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DarkRain wrote:Hey guys just made my dream come true :) a tube overdrive with 300v anode voltage from a 12v supply. The base schematic is from Matchless Hot Box (i used a BigMuff tone controll from RG site), it's also has a volume and gain controll. The SMPS it's based on a NIXIE design but i modify it so the 555 will oscillate at a higher freq. (about 40-45kHz). Some pictures and a sound clip that was recorded useing a ROG Condor cabsim. I'm waiting for your opinion (also if someone is intrested i will post all the schematics that i used and also the PCB design - they are made from 0 by me).

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Gabriel Tudoran
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http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15275178/Pictur ... rDrive.mp3

I like it !

The gain isn't so "over the top" maybe the BMP tone control is taming it down a bit - but I do like it a lot.

Where was gain set on your clips ?

Dan
That was 80% from maximum gain - it's not a high gain pedal it's more like a medium gain overdrive. Glad you like it and hank you for your reply.

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Good work Gabe!!! Sounds very good. :wink: :applause:
First thought...it would be awesome to make everything on one pcb and put it in a 1590BB enclosure. If you'd like I'd be glad to help with it! :D
Can't wait to see the schematic.
Cheers and keep the good work! :thumbsup

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Shit man that PCB is terrorized........ :?

but I like the sound :thumbsup

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borislavgajic wrote:Shit man that PCB is terrorized........ :?

but I like the sound :thumbsup

Boris
Guess it's made from a bitmap file, not vector graphic...but, looks like a prototype...it could be better with little workout! :wink:
Good idea non the less!

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borislavgajic wrote:Shit man that PCB is terrorized........ :?

but I like the sound :thumbsup

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:lol: :lol: :lol: Was done using some not so good glassy paper - was done in Eagle but it looks better in reality then the picture... and also the traces ware little bit to thin... but i'm happy with it :P nobody will bother to open it :D
I'm very happy that you like the sound.

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DarkRain wrote:
borislavgajic wrote:Shit man that PCB is terrorized........ :?

but I like the sound :thumbsup

Boris
:lol: :lol: :lol: Was done using some not so good glassy paper - was done in Eagle but it looks better in reality then the picture... and also the traces ware little bit to thin... but i'm happy with it :P nobody will bother to open it :D
I'm very happy that you like the sound.

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Hey man.....do not get me wrong..........I like everyting about this project..... :thumbsup .....can you post schem please......Bajaman was talking about this tubes need to be biased differently than 12AX7 and ecc83.........

I would like to make tubezipper and blackfinger with those submini tubes


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+1 post the schems please! I'm really really interested about those SMPS power supply!

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There there :)
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15275178/MDrive ... _ne555.JPG
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15275178/MDrive ... _ne555.JPG
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15275178/MDrive ... -NE555.pdf
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15275178/MDrive ... rDrive.JPG

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PS: on my smps i used C1=1.8n (it's better to use a higher freq.), so all the rest is the same as here ;) I'm waiting for some build reports. Thank you a lot guys for your interest.

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can you give me some details about the inductance? there are some more critical values to look at other than 100uH?

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Emanuele wrote:can you give me some details about the inductance? there are some more critical values to look at other than 100uH?
No critical values +/- 10% will do just fine. The inductance is on ferite core and shoud have over 500mA maximum current (600-800mA will be just fine). Nothing other then that (you could also experiment with 180-200uH).

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Gabriel,

WIll you be posting the layout for the mainboard as well ?

As himister said - it would be great to integrate everything onto one board - or maybe there's a reason you kept them seperate ?

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danielzink wrote:Gabriel,

WIll you be posting the layout for the mainboard as well ?

As himister said - it would be great to integrate everything onto one board - or maybe there's a reason you kept them seperate ?

Dan
Hey Daniel,
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There it is the layout for MD, i wouldn't go to integrate the SMPS on the main board...could be trouble regarding noise... but it would be nice to do that. :horsey:

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The SMD version of the SMPS
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:applause: It could be even smaller than 9V battery :thumbsup
great project......... :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

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borislavgajic wrote::applause: It could be even smaller than 9V battery :thumbsup
great project......... :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

Boris
Thank you Boris,

Yes it could be much smaller then a 9v battery (next prototype will use 0805 SMD). I will make a more compact PCB (hope i can solder them after :D as my eyes are a little bit tierd). Thank you for your appreciation guys.

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Just got a bunch of 6N21B submini tubes (max. amplification in 100) i can't hardly wait to see how they sound - i will keep you posted guys :D

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The Frankenstein (used a test enclosure), no hum no noise no nothing for now, anode voltage is @ 220v. The clip was recorded using this pedal, a condor cabsim and REAPER (with a little reverb on solo part), no other eq or effects used.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15275178/MDrive/MasterD.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15275178/MDrive ... Drive2.mp3

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A new model (much more gain) with 6N21B double triodes and some audio clips, the recording chain was: Guitar / Tube pedal / Condor cabsim / Sund card.

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Clips:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15275178/Crunch ... Ibanez.mp3
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15275178/Crunch ... -Strat.mp3

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