Guru Electronics - Big Cheese clone - Bad workmanship

Barcode · Post by **Barcode** » 23 Apr 2011, 01:31

... will yield a sale. I just got this in for repair. It's a Big Cheese clone. Gloppy solder, spaghetti wiring, cold solder joints, lifted traces, egads it is AWFUL...

DrNomis · Post by **DrNomis** » 23 Apr 2011, 01:39

I've seen worse than that in some Pro manufactured stuff....

IvIark · Post by **IvIark** » 23 Apr 2011, 01:40

Did the Zenkudo dude do that or Sean?

Barcode · Post by **Barcode** » 23 Apr 2011, 01:47

IvIark wrote:Did the Zenkudo dude do that or Sean?

The inside of the pedal is signed and says "guru-electronics.co.uk", a site that apparently no longer exists...

IvIark · Post by **IvIark** » 23 Apr 2011, 01:58

Barcode wrote:no longer exists...

Wonder why ...

DrNomis · Post by **DrNomis** » 23 Apr 2011, 02:31

That PCB looks like someone has been trying to use a rusty nail as a soldering bit, way too much heat and solder in my opinion....

culturejam · Post by **culturejam** » 23 Apr 2011, 02:48

IvIark wrote:Did the Zenkudo dude do that or Sean?

Hey now!

Sean's recent stuff looks really awesome. And that's because a machine in Asia (most likely) did all the work.

reneshelle · Post by **reneshelle** » 23 Apr 2011, 06:05

HEY!!! Do not criticize sloppy soldering. You could badly bruise someones fragile ego.

to quote Kings of Leon: someone like me...

Dirk_Hendrik · Post by **Dirk_Hendrik** » 23 Apr 2011, 06:47

DrNomis wrote:That PCB looks like someone has been trying to use a rusty nail as a soldering bit, way too much heat and solder in my opinion....

Agree. It sugests it has been soldered with a soldering gun.

As well reference to this thread for similar pics:
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=8995&hilit=horror

DrNomis · Post by **DrNomis** » 23 Apr 2011, 10:12

Dirk_Hendrik wrote:
DrNomis wrote:That PCB looks like someone has been trying to use a rusty nail as a soldering bit, way too much heat and solder in my opinion....
Agree. It sugests it has been soldered with a soldering gun.

As well reference to this thread for similar pics:
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=8995&hilit=horror

You know, ever since I graduated to my 100 Watt Temperature Controlled Soldering Station, I haven't produced a single dry solder joint, all my soldering joints have been good and shiny so far, the Soldering Station cost me a bit but it was well worth it, I saw a vast improvement over my previous 48 Watt Soldering Station....

DougH · Post by **DougH** » 23 Apr 2011, 15:49

"Hey Ma! Can I use Dad's soldering gun in the basement again?"

sinner · Post by **sinner** » 23 Apr 2011, 16:29

DrNomis wrote:
Dirk_Hendrik wrote:
DrNomis wrote:That PCB looks like someone has been trying to use a rusty nail as a soldering bit, way too much heat and solder in my opinion....
Agree. It sugests it has been soldered with a soldering gun.

As well reference to this thread for similar pics:
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=8995&hilit=horror

You know, ever since I graduated to my 100 Watt Temperature Controlled Soldering Station, I haven't produced a single dry solder joint, all my soldering joints have been good and shiny so far, the Soldering Station cost me a bit but it was well worth it, I saw a vast improvement over my previous 48 Watt Soldering Station....

I've scored my temperature controlled station for something around of $30. It's made in China Zhaoxin 936D and it was the best $30 I've ever spend on DIY equipment. Still works after 2 years

Dirk_Hendrik · Post by **Dirk_Hendrik** » 23 Apr 2011, 20:23

DougH wrote:"Hey Ma! Can I use Dad's soldering gun in the basement again?"

That's what I refrreded to some 2 says ago Doug

bhill · Post by **bhill** » 24 Apr 2011, 02:57

Makes me feel better about some of my "work"

Dirk_Hendrik · Post by **Dirk_Hendrik** » 24 Apr 2011, 05:40

Back ontopic,
Barcode says this is a repair job on his bench. This means that when the thing fails again due to the poor quality of the original there's quite a chance the Barcode will be held accountable for the failure. Those repairs are annoying. You more or less inherit the poor qual of a wannabe bootweaker.

DrNomis · Post by **DrNomis** » 24 Apr 2011, 06:06

Dirk_Hendrik wrote:Back ontopic,
Barcode says this is a repair job on his bench. This means that when the thing fails again due to the poor quality of the original there's quite a chance the Barcode will be held accountable for the failure. Those repairs are annoying. You more or less inherit the poor qual of a wannabe bootweaker.

I totally agree, which is why I try to repair things so that they look almost brand new, I go to great lengths to make sure I use the right parts too, basically, when I repair something, I want to make it look like it has never gone faulty, and you're unable to see if it has ever been "'worked-on" before.....

I've seen lots of examples of "bodged" repairs....

Post by **modman** » 24 Apr 2011, 06:20

Barcode wrote:
IvIark wrote:Did the Zenkudo dude do that or Sean?

The inside of the pedal is signed and says "guru-electronics.co.uk", a site that apparently no longer exists...

But still, shouldn't we stay cool and give this thread a proper title?

DrNomis · Post by **DrNomis** » 24 Apr 2011, 06:32

modman wrote:
Barcode wrote:
IvIark wrote:Did the Zenkudo dude do that or Sean?

The inside of the pedal is signed and says "guru-electronics.co.uk", a site that apparently no longer exists...
But still, shouldn't we stay cool and give it a proper title?

You have a point there though, modman....

Maybe we could run an informal competition to see who can come up with the best title, can be serious, not-so-serious, funny, risque, or maybe a mixture of all that thrown together in a pot...

Post by **modman** » 24 Apr 2011, 06:59

DrNomis wrote:
modman wrote:
Barcode wrote:
IvIark wrote:Did the Zenkudo dude do that or Sean?

The inside of the pedal is signed and says "guru-electronics.co.uk", a site that apparently no longer exists...
But still, shouldn't we stay cool and give it a proper title?

You have a point there though, modman....
Maybe we could run an informal competition to see who can come up with the best title, can be serious, not-so-serious, funny, risque, or maybe a mixture of all that thrown together in a pot...

I mean like: 'Guru Electronics - Big Cheese clone' in that way other people coming across the same unit can find this thread...
especially since the website is down.

DrNomis · Post by **DrNomis** » 24 Apr 2011, 07:06

modman wrote:
DrNomis wrote:
modman wrote:
Barcode wrote:
IvIark wrote:Did the Zenkudo dude do that or Sean?

The inside of the pedal is signed and says "guru-electronics.co.uk", a site that apparently no longer exists...
But still, shouldn't we stay cool and give it a proper title?

You have a point there though, modman....
Maybe we could run an informal competition to see who can come up with the best title, can be serious, not-so-serious, funny, risque, or maybe a mixture of all that thrown together in a pot...
I mean like: 'Guru Electronics - Big Cheese clone' in that way other people coming across the same unit can find this thread...
especially since the website is down.

Oh right, I think I must have mis-read your last post.....