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Guru Electronics - Big Cheese clone - Bad workmanship

Posted: 23 Apr 2011, 01:31
by Barcode
... will yield a sale. I just got this in for repair. It's a Big Cheese clone. Gloppy solder, spaghetti wiring, cold solder joints, lifted traces, egads it is AWFUL...

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Re: Some of the crappiest workmanship...

Posted: 23 Apr 2011, 01:39
by DrNomis
I've seen worse than that in some Pro manufactured stuff.... :D

Re: Some of the crappiest workmanship...

Posted: 23 Apr 2011, 01:40
by IvIark
Did the Zenkudo dude do that or Sean?






:lol:

Re: Some of the crappiest workmanship...

Posted: 23 Apr 2011, 01:47
by Barcode
IvIark wrote:Did the Zenkudo dude do that or Sean?






:lol:
:D

The inside of the pedal is signed and says "guru-electronics.co.uk", a site that apparently no longer exists...

Re: Some of the crappiest workmanship...

Posted: 23 Apr 2011, 01:58
by IvIark
Barcode wrote:no longer exists...
Wonder why ... :twisted:

Re: Some of the crappiest workmanship...

Posted: 23 Apr 2011, 02:31
by DrNomis
That PCB looks like someone has been trying to use a rusty nail as a soldering bit, way too much heat and solder in my opinion.... :D

Re: Some of the crappiest workmanship...

Posted: 23 Apr 2011, 02:48
by culturejam
IvIark wrote:Did the Zenkudo dude do that or Sean?
Hey now!

Sean's recent stuff looks really awesome. And that's because a machine in Asia (most likely) did all the work. :lol:

Re: Some of the crappiest workmanship...

Posted: 23 Apr 2011, 06:05
by reneshelle
HEY!!! Do not criticize sloppy soldering. You could badly bruise someones fragile ego.

to quote Kings of Leon: someone like me...

Re: Some of the crappiest workmanship...

Posted: 23 Apr 2011, 06:47
by Dirk_Hendrik
DrNomis wrote:That PCB looks like someone has been trying to use a rusty nail as a soldering bit, way too much heat and solder in my opinion.... :D
Agree. It sugests it has been soldered with a soldering gun.

As well reference to this thread for similar pics:
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=8995&hilit=horror

Re: Some of the crappiest workmanship...

Posted: 23 Apr 2011, 10:12
by DrNomis
Dirk_Hendrik wrote:
DrNomis wrote:That PCB looks like someone has been trying to use a rusty nail as a soldering bit, way too much heat and solder in my opinion.... :D
Agree. It sugests it has been soldered with a soldering gun.

As well reference to this thread for similar pics:
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=8995&hilit=horror


You know, ever since I graduated to my 100 Watt Temperature Controlled Soldering Station, I haven't produced a single dry solder joint, all my soldering joints have been good and shiny so far, the Soldering Station cost me a bit but it was well worth it, I saw a vast improvement over my previous 48 Watt Soldering Station.... :D

Re: Some of the crappiest workmanship...

Posted: 23 Apr 2011, 15:49
by DougH
"Hey Ma! Can I use Dad's soldering gun in the basement again?"

Re: Some of the crappiest workmanship...

Posted: 23 Apr 2011, 16:29
by sinner
DrNomis wrote:
Dirk_Hendrik wrote:
DrNomis wrote:That PCB looks like someone has been trying to use a rusty nail as a soldering bit, way too much heat and solder in my opinion.... :D
Agree. It sugests it has been soldered with a soldering gun.

As well reference to this thread for similar pics:
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=8995&hilit=horror


You know, ever since I graduated to my 100 Watt Temperature Controlled Soldering Station, I haven't produced a single dry solder joint, all my soldering joints have been good and shiny so far, the Soldering Station cost me a bit but it was well worth it, I saw a vast improvement over my previous 48 Watt Soldering Station.... :D
I've scored my temperature controlled station for something around of $30. It's made in China Zhaoxin 936D and it was the best $30 I've ever spend on DIY equipment. Still works after 2 years :)

Re: Some of the crappiest workmanship...

Posted: 23 Apr 2011, 20:23
by Dirk_Hendrik
DougH wrote:"Hey Ma! Can I use Dad's soldering gun in the basement again?"
That's what I refrreded to some 2 says ago Doug :mrgreen:

Re: Some of the crappiest workmanship...

Posted: 24 Apr 2011, 02:57
by bhill
Makes me feel better about some of my "work" :)

Re: Some of the crappiest workmanship...

Posted: 24 Apr 2011, 05:40
by Dirk_Hendrik
Back ontopic,
Barcode says this is a repair job on his bench. This means that when the thing fails again due to the poor quality of the original there's quite a chance the Barcode will be held accountable for the failure. Those repairs are annoying. You more or less inherit the poor qual of a wannabe bootweaker.

Re: Some of the crappiest workmanship...

Posted: 24 Apr 2011, 06:06
by DrNomis
Dirk_Hendrik wrote:Back ontopic,
Barcode says this is a repair job on his bench. This means that when the thing fails again due to the poor quality of the original there's quite a chance the Barcode will be held accountable for the failure. Those repairs are annoying. You more or less inherit the poor qual of a wannabe bootweaker.

I totally agree, which is why I try to repair things so that they look almost brand new, I go to great lengths to make sure I use the right parts too, basically, when I repair something, I want to make it look like it has never gone faulty, and you're unable to see if it has ever been "'worked-on" before..... :D

I've seen lots of examples of "bodged" repairs.... :D

Re: Some of the crappiest workmanship...

Posted: 24 Apr 2011, 06:20
by modman
Barcode wrote:
IvIark wrote:Did the Zenkudo dude do that or Sean?
:lol:
:D
The inside of the pedal is signed and says "guru-electronics.co.uk", a site that apparently no longer exists...
But still, shouldn't we stay cool and give this thread a proper title?
;-)

Re: Some of the crappiest workmanship...

Posted: 24 Apr 2011, 06:32
by DrNomis
modman wrote:
Barcode wrote:
IvIark wrote:Did the Zenkudo dude do that or Sean?
:lol:
:D
The inside of the pedal is signed and says "guru-electronics.co.uk", a site that apparently no longer exists...
But still, shouldn't we stay cool and give it a proper title?
;-)


:lol:


You have a point there though, modman.... :D

Maybe we could run an informal competition to see who can come up with the best title, can be serious, not-so-serious, funny, risque, or maybe a mixture of all that thrown together in a pot... :wink:

Re: Some of the crappiest workmanship...

Posted: 24 Apr 2011, 06:59
by modman
DrNomis wrote:
modman wrote:
Barcode wrote:
IvIark wrote:Did the Zenkudo dude do that or Sean?
:lol:
:D
The inside of the pedal is signed and says "guru-electronics.co.uk", a site that apparently no longer exists...
But still, shouldn't we stay cool and give it a proper title?
;-)
:lol:
You have a point there though, modman.... :D
Maybe we could run an informal competition to see who can come up with the best title, can be serious, not-so-serious, funny, risque, or maybe a mixture of all that thrown together in a pot... :wink:
I mean like: 'Guru Electronics - Big Cheese clone' in that way other people coming across the same unit can find this thread...
especially since the website is down.

Re: Some of the crappiest workmanship...

Posted: 24 Apr 2011, 07:06
by DrNomis
modman wrote:
DrNomis wrote:
modman wrote:
Barcode wrote:
IvIark wrote:Did the Zenkudo dude do that or Sean?
:lol:
:D
The inside of the pedal is signed and says "guru-electronics.co.uk", a site that apparently no longer exists...
But still, shouldn't we stay cool and give it a proper title?
;-)
:lol:
You have a point there though, modman.... :D
Maybe we could run an informal competition to see who can come up with the best title, can be serious, not-so-serious, funny, risque, or maybe a mixture of all that thrown together in a pot... :wink:
I mean like: 'Guru Electronics - Big Cheese clone' in that way other people coming across the same unit can find this thread...
especially since the website is down.

Oh right, I think I must have mis-read your last post..... :D