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D*A*M - Grease Box  [traced]

Posted: 06 Jun 2011, 20:37
by phibes
I traced this one way back when it first came out and I found some better gut shots to confirm values. I'm surprised I didn't see a topic on it. Really nothing new going, just a fixed MKIII/MKIV Tone Bender variant with the tone control fixed. I know a lot of guys like the DAM stuff. In my opinion it's a more useful two knob version rather than the 2 knob Park Fuzz Sound which has the gain fixed rather than the tone control. Modifying a pre-existing layout should be a breeze for it.

Rock on and enjoy.

Re: D*A*M Grease Box

Posted: 07 Jun 2011, 06:46
by beedotman
I think that schematic is correct. Can post some gutshots one of the latest purple Grease when I'll back home. I think also have layout somewhere...

Re: D*A*M Grease Box

Posted: 07 Jun 2011, 06:51
by beedotman
First units has 10nf input cap instead 15nf in GB-80.
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Re: D*A*M Grease Box

Posted: 07 Jun 2011, 07:09
by beedotman
Grease has really nice clean up, its sounds like blend between drive and fuzz - its not so gainy comparing to others MKIII/IV circuits, so I believe last trannie hfe should be around 60-80.

Re: D*A*M Grease Box

Posted: 08 Jun 2011, 21:00
by beedotman
here is board from copper side - this jumper in read is one of Q1 leg

Re: D*A*M Grease Box

Posted: 08 Jun 2011, 21:04
by phibes
Nice! I'll compare it to my schematic.

Re: D*A*M Grease Box

Posted: 08 Jun 2011, 21:04
by beedotman
beedotman wrote:- this jumper in read is one of Q1 leg
this is Q1 emiter

Re: D*A*M Grease Box

Posted: 08 Jun 2011, 21:07
by phibes
Can you check the pot values? I just went with normal mkiii/iv values.

Re: D*A*M Grease Box

Posted: 08 Jun 2011, 21:08
by beedotman
and this is layout.
sorry for shitty work - I've done this in excell when I was bored at work :blackeye
i think its pretty much ok

Re: D*A*M Grease Box

Posted: 08 Jun 2011, 21:10
by beedotman
phibes wrote:Can you check the pot values? I just went with normal mkiii/iv values.
Citec 100KA for both

Re: D*A*M Grease Box

Posted: 08 Jun 2011, 21:19
by beedotman
and little more gut shots

Re: D*A*M Grease Box

Posted: 08 Jun 2011, 21:20
by phibes
Yeah that layout matches what I drew up. Thanks for the pot values! Consider this one verified.

Re: D*A*M Grease Box

Posted: 08 Jun 2011, 21:22
by beedotman
trannies:
Q1 - Motorolla metal can OC75
Q2 - CV7004
Q3 - OC71

Re: D*A*M Grease Box

Posted: 08 Jun 2011, 21:23
by beedotman
phibes wrote:Yeah that layout matches what I drew up. Thanks for the pot values! Consider this one verified.
cool! :thumbsup

Re: D*A*M Grease Box

Posted: 14 Jun 2011, 05:20
by azrael
awesome stuff! i love the MKIII design, so it's always cool to see variants.

Re: D*A*M Grease Box

Posted: 01 Jul 2011, 17:43
by beedotman
redrawn layout

Re: D*A*M Grease Box

Posted: 22 Feb 2012, 15:06
by beedotman
I have finished prototype with transistors on sockets and it sounds really nice. :D

I think Q3 should has little higher hfe - 85-105 to get proper bias on collector which is around 2.5V in orginal units.
For Q1 and Q2 I have used "standard" gains (50-60 and 70-80 respectively with medium leakage) but this circuit is quite elastic so there shouldn't be problems to get good sounding trio.

Very fun and highly recommended circuit! :thumbsup :horsey:

Re: D*A*M Grease Box

Posted: 22 Feb 2012, 15:10
by beedotman
BTW... In latest batch AC125 trannies were used with 15K instead of 20K on Q3 collector.
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Re: D*A*M Grease Box

Posted: 26 Feb 2012, 11:57
by G5120fx
beedotman wrote:redrawn layout
Nice Layout, thanks!
I just noticed that C1 and C2 have to be turned 180°! Or the shaded side is "+"

Re: D*A*M Grease Box

Posted: 27 Feb 2012, 08:25
by beedotman
G5120fx wrote:
beedotman wrote:redrawn layout
Nice Layout, thanks!
I just noticed that C1 and C2 have to be turned 180°! Or the shaded side is "+"
Yup! :thumbsup You're right! "+" should go to ground, I haven't noticed shading before. :blackeye
Will redrawn it again and post soon.