PCE Effects - Aluminum Falcon

Seiche · Post by **Seiche** » 03 Mar 2012, 15:41

Apparently it's a Klon Clone. So far so boring, but what's interesting is that they seem to use the original board layout.

original board (degooped)

madbean · Post by **madbean** » 03 Mar 2012, 16:12

Yup, that is the original Klon layout. Lame.

culturejam · Post by **culturejam** » 03 Mar 2012, 16:19

madbean wrote:Lame.

Indeed.

I've obviously made it clear that I have no objection to cloning. But for fuck's sake, at least spend a couple hours working up your own PCB layout.

This actually *might* be one of the few cases in which the copyright of the original builder may have been violated. As far as I have been able to tell, the layout artwork is, in fact, copyrighted upon creation (much like a photograph). So it seems this might be an actionable matter, legally speaking. I mean, provided that someone were to see the need to drop several thousand dollars to get things rolling.

madbean · Post by **madbean** » 03 Mar 2012, 16:22

Pretty much. Build a clone, if that's your thing, but FFS do some work to justify it.

Seiche · Post by **Seiche** » 03 Mar 2012, 16:48

it's funny that they can shell em out for 150 when the only difference is the enclosure. pretty ballsy the whole thing.

i wonder if the layout is just a pre-production thing? I guess not, why do all that work for only one pedal right? so it's safe to assume the production models are the same.

jb351 · Post by **jb351** » 03 Mar 2012, 17:09

It quite likely uses the layout files Soulsonic made a few years back. I can't find it online anymore but I still have a printed copy of it.
I think it came with the PCB layout as well but I only have the parts placement part of it now.

culturejam · Post by **culturejam** » 03 Mar 2012, 17:18

^^ Looks pretty much like it.

Seiche · Post by **Seiche** » 03 Mar 2012, 17:50

PCE Effects wrote:It's essentially the same. That one was a black custom order and the guy wanted white wire for some reason. It's a little neater now and I use only Panasonic caps and no Lelon's. Other than that it's basically the same. I'll post some gutshots tomorrow when I get back from gigging this weekend.

It is the same layout but it's one that I did myself based on my Klon. I am aware of the one that was degooped by another forum but didn't base mine on their work. I think the end result is probably the same or equivalent.

source: http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showpo ... stcount=41

madbean · Post by **madbean** » 03 Mar 2012, 17:51

Can anyone decipher that statement from the TGP thread? It's the same layout but original and wasn't based on the original or copied layout but looks just like it? I dunno what that is supposed to mean. Actually, Martin said his drawing of the PCB layout was only 99% of the original, IIRC.

Seiche · Post by **Seiche** » 03 Mar 2012, 18:02

madbean wrote:Can anyone decipher that statement from the TGP thread? It's the same layout but original and wasn't based on the original or copied layout but looks just like it? I dunno what that is supposed to mean. Actually, Martin said his drawing of the PCB layout was only 99% of the original, IIRC.

It's the same layout but parallel development

i don't understand what is misleading about

It is the same layout but it's one that I did myself based on my Klon. I am aware of the one that was degooped by another forum but didn't base mine on their work.

culturejam · Post by **culturejam** » 03 Mar 2012, 18:42

My head hurts.

But at least he had the decency to switch to all Panasonic caps.

madbean · Post by **madbean** » 03 Mar 2012, 18:45

I friggin LOVE my miniature LeLons. I use them for all my electrolytic needs.

culturejam · Post by **culturejam** » 03 Mar 2012, 19:15

madbean wrote:I friggin LOVE my miniature LeLons. I use them for all my electrolytic needs.

Sure, but they frighten off all the haunting mids. Gotta have 'Sonics for the scary-big mids.

phibes · Post by **phibes** » 03 Mar 2012, 21:10

I think I remember reading that Bill gave his blessing for this guy to sell em.

culturejam · Post by **culturejam** » 03 Mar 2012, 21:50

rocklander · Post by **rocklander** » 03 Mar 2012, 22:14

I think you guys are missing a pretty important point here..

"Aluminium Falcon" ...

..fuck I wish I had thought of that name... srsly.. I really love a good pun..

phibes · Post by **phibes** » 04 Mar 2012, 02:50

I don't get it... what's the pun meaning behind Aluminum Falcon?

rocklander · Post by **rocklander** » 04 Mar 2012, 03:34

phibes wrote:I don't get it... what's the pun meaning behind Aluminum Falcon?

my mind immediately went to this..

Seiche · Post by **Seiche** » 04 Mar 2012, 04:55

look it up on urban dictionary. an alumin(i)um falcon is when you don't have a condom

madbean · Post by **madbean** » 04 Mar 2012, 05:46

Seiche wrote:look it up on urban dictionary. an alumin(i)um falcon is when you don't have a condom

WTF? Damn, I need to bone up on my culture and stuff. Never heard that one.