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Mbas974 wrote:In adding a tone-stack to this pedal, what should fit as the best solution ?
A solution like BB-Preamp can be a good option ?
Any suggestion ?
Thanks is advance.
The pedal already has a tone control so you really don't need to add a Tonestack to it, if you do you may find that the output level will drop, Tonestacks tend to be a bit lossy particularly the Fender or Marshall Tonestacks.....
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Thanks Bajaman.
I've made it -and it sounds great. The only changes I've made were potentiometers and one resistor. 20k for tone, 100k for gain, 500k for level and 2.2k instead of 680R near the second stage preamp. It dropped the gain a lot - and I really like it now.
Cheers!
I was just doing some layouting for your BAJA B K Tube Driver (with biasing), when I came across this thread. Now I skimmed through this thread trying to find the answer to this question I had, but with no luck.. maybe the answer doesn't even exit but well here it goes:
Is there any other difference between your Real Tube Driver and the BK except that yours has better voltage regulation, different voltage input and is missing the HI / LOW Eq stage at the end and it fits in a standard case? Can't make out any other difference looking at the schematics. Oh yeah.. what happened to the diode biasing at the non-inverting input op OP1? What's your reason for calling it a "real" tube driver?
Right now of adding the biasing to this circuit and create some gerber files for this project, as the power supply certainly is much cleaner.
I was just doing some layouting for your BAJA B K Tube Driver (with biasing), when I came across this thread. Now I skimmed through this thread trying to find the answer to this question I had, but with no luck.. maybe the answer doesn't even exit but well here it goes:
Is there any other difference between your Real Tube Driver and the BK except that yours has better voltage regulation, different voltage input and is missing the HI / LOW Eq stage at the end and it fits in a standard case? Can't make out any other difference looking at the schematics. Oh yeah.. what happened to the diode biasing at the non-inverting input op OP1? What's your reason for calling it a "real" tube driver?
Right now of adding the biasing to this circuit and create some gerber files for this project, as the power supply certainly is much cleaner.
Thanks!
It's called a real Tube Driver because it uses a real tube which is driven to create the overdrive sound.
Genius is not all about 99% perspiration, and 1% inspiration - sometimes the solution is staring you right in the face.-Frequencycentral.
so many commercial pedals are marketed as "tube overdrives" , "Tube drivers" , "tube screamers" etc., when clearly they do not contain an actual vacuum tube in them. then there are the pedals marketed with tubes in them although all the overdrive and distortion is realised by diode clipping circuits - i think you can figure out why this is called a REAL tube drive now
the diode biasing you mentioned is just protection against dc over voltage - peavey use it quite a lot in their designs - feel free to include it if you really think it necessary but the circuit will function perfectly okay without it. Do not underestimate the simple tone control compared to the BK Butler tube driver's more elaborate tone stack - i did not want the low mid range notch that the three section control introduces - this makes a BIG difference to the sound of the pedal
right now I'm trying to figure out a proper PCB arrangement to fit everything in a BB case without constraining myself too much on specific potentiometers / TRS sockets etc...
I kinda wonder how you got you PCB placed in the Hammond case at all. and i don't mean the tube but rather actually fitting the fixed sockets / pots / switch in their holes.
Xaser wrote:ok, the schematic is done.. i think.. see below..
right now I'm trying to figure out a proper PCB arrangement to fit everything in a BB case without constraining myself too much on specific potentiometers / TRS sockets etc...
I kinda wonder how you got you PCB placed in the Hammond case at all. and i don't mean the tube but rather actually fitting the fixed sockets / pots / switch in their holes.
In the schematic you posted R1 should be 100 ohms not 1M.
Genius is not all about 99% perspiration, and 1% inspiration - sometimes the solution is staring you right in the face.-Frequencycentral.
and C1 should be 100n - really what exactly are youy trying to achieve - this is not the thread for this schematic - this is the Baja Real Tube Drive project NOT the BK Butler Tube Driver
yep thanks for pointing that out, was a copy and paste error..
what I'm trying to achieve here? well first of all I need proper CAD files so I can order proper PCBs, I'm not a fan of etching PCBs, its not very clean in my opinion.. but then again audio is DC really, I'm used to work with much more high frequency signals. The next thing is, because the BK Butler and your Tube Driver are almost identical really for the main signal path, I don't see why I shouldn't make my PCB in a way that allows me to build both versions on the same PCB. So the schematic can be posted here or over in the BK driver thread. In fact due to the power section, it's more closely related to your Driver
Mbas974 wrote:In adding a tone-stack to this pedal, what should fit as the best solution ?
A solution like BB-Preamp can be a good option ?
Any suggestion ?
Thanks is advance.
The pedal already has a tone control so you really don't need to add a Tonestack to it, if you do you may find that the output level will drop, Tonestacks tend to be a bit lossy particularly the Fender or Marshall Tonestacks.....
The BK Butler BlueTube has a tone stack. I own one of those. Nice pedal but... with a 12AX7 is breaks up too much just getting it to unity gain (probably because of the tone stack). So I replaced it with a 12AU7. The other two issues are; the pedal hums a bit, and the output impedance is high, so you have to be careful what you plug it into. It could really use an output buffer. The tone stack is very useful, especially using it with bass.
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No that is an AC (in) to DC (out) convertor for driving LEDs (which require DC).
You need to search for 'transformer 16vac'. not sure where in the world you are but best to find one locally if you can (because transformers being full of steel and copper are heavy).
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- really what exactly are youy trying to achieve - this is not the thread for this schematic - this is the Baja Real Tube Drive project NOT the BK Butler Tube Driver 
