Jack Deville - Mod Zero

culturejam · Post by **culturejam** » 27 Jul 2012, 00:25

It flanges, it vibes, it does chorus!

Pretty cool design, I'll have to say. Jack, I still don't know how you manage those crazy-ass OCD layouts. Also, I thought you said a while back that MMK caps were shitty, but I see some in this build.

Duckman · Post by **Duckman** » 27 Jul 2012, 00:54

Holly shit! Those chips can barely breathe!

juanro · Post by **juanro** » 27 Jul 2012, 02:21

I tried a few times (and in much simpler circuits than this!) to align all components like that and it was a total mess (a failed mess, by the way). What's the secret? Is that pcb two (or four) layered? Really amazing.

Post by **azrael** » 27 Jul 2012, 02:31

Yes, I believe does 4 layer designs for some of his pedals. This is definitely one of them.

Another thing to note is that he has fairly small solder pads. This allows him to run traces between there, I'm sure.

Jack Deville · Post by **Jack Deville** » 27 Jul 2012, 12:52

culturejam wrote:It flanges, it vibes, it does chorus!

Pretty cool design, I'll have to say. Jack, I still don't know how you manage those crazy-ass OCD layouts. Also, I thought you said a while back that MMK caps were shitty, but I see some in this build.

Like I said in the JHS thread: MMK's are really only suited for power supply decoupling.

As far as the layout goes: it's a four layer PCB. All signal traces are on the inner two layers. Top and bottom layers are ground planes which pull double duty and obstruct a would-be RE's access to signal traces. Combined efforts of my OCD tracking of the signal traces (two layers tracked to compliment one another and make reverse engineering even more difficult), obstructed vision, embedded control system required for operation and tight layout, I think it'd be easier to simple design your own through-zero flanger than take this one apart.

I don't know what I was thinking designing that circuit. Or tracking it. Or building it.
A layout like that takes a LONG time. And for fun, there are some patterns embedded in it as well. See if you can spot one!

I think I have a problem.

culturejam · Post by **culturejam** » 27 Jul 2012, 13:26

I saw one, maybe two, traces on the entire top of the PCB. That alone let me know it was 4-layer. No way all the routing was done on the bottom; didn't even have to pull it out to figure that one out.

Thanks for the info, Jack.

okgb · Post by **okgb** » 27 Jul 2012, 13:27

Hmm , for patterns I see a V or kind of wing shape , not really a face .
fairly symmetrical ,
for the zero flanging the whole signal gets delayed ?

culturejam · Post by **culturejam** » 27 Jul 2012, 13:29

Jack, did you discontinue the Mod Zero? I don't see it on your site anymore.

Jack Deville · Post by **Jack Deville** » 27 Jul 2012, 13:32

culturejam wrote:Jack, did you discontinue the Mod Zero? I don't see it on your site anymore.

Yes. Mod Zero is off the production line right now.
I'm not seeing more units being produced.

Jack Deville · Post by **Jack Deville** » 27 Jul 2012, 13:34

okgb wrote:Hmm , for patterns I see a V or kind of wing shape , not really a face .
fairly symmetrical ,
for the zero flanging the whole signal gets delayed ?

Just the left side.

Mich P · Post by **Mich P** » 27 Jul 2012, 17:40

Jack Deville wrote:
culturejam wrote:Jack, did you discontinue the Mod Zero? I don't see it on your site anymore.
Yes. Mod Zero is off the production line right now.
I'm not seeing more units being produced.

Great i have bought one and i like this will worth 5k very soon ...
Mich P.

Duckman · Post by **Duckman** » 27 Jul 2012, 17:54

Jack Deville wrote:I think I have a problem.

Yeap... but, obviously, you like it

¿Smoke and mirror? That´s very 70's, Jack

atreidesheir · Post by **atreidesheir** » 27 Jul 2012, 18:57

juanro wrote:I tried a few times (and in much simpler circuits than this!) to align all components like that and it was a total mess (a failed mess, by the way). What's the secret? Is that pcb two (or four) layered? Really amazing.

That sweet thang in his avatar makes him do it. mmmm

Jack Deville · Post by **Jack Deville** » 27 Jul 2012, 22:44

atreidesheir wrote:
juanro wrote:I tried a few times (and in much simpler circuits than this!) to align all components like that and it was a total mess (a failed mess, by the way). What's the secret? Is that pcb two (or four) layered? Really amazing.
That sweet thang in his avatar makes him do it. mmmm

My girlfriend or my 12ga?
Or the combination of the two?

The Rotagilla · Post by **The Rotagilla** » 27 Jul 2012, 23:34

Jack's board layouts make me want to spend time in Wilson's tool shed.

BaldPaul · Post by **BaldPaul** » 27 Jul 2012, 23:39

Wow. I mean, like WOW

This makes my head hurt a little.