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Re: [Replica Files] Shin-ei/Univox Uni-Vibe

Posted: 12 Oct 2012, 15:59
by sinner
BTW

B C E
Q1 1.01 2.42 1.18
Q2 2.42 2.33 1.84
Q3 4.76 10.77 4.20
Q4 4.51 15.54 4.62
Q5 4.62 11.79 4.01
Q6 3.84 15.55 3.85
Q7 3.85 12.21 3.26
Q8 4.15 15.54 4.18
Q9 4.18 12.10 3.59
Q10 5.77 15.57 5.64
Q11 3.46 19.22 10.77
Q12 10.77 19.18 10.42
Q13 5.62 14.21 2.03

Univibe (real one) voltages. Clearly shown internal transformer secondaries, which is really close to 20VDC (+/- 19.20 after the diode in line with V+)

Measurements taken by our friend The Rotagilla

Re: [Replica Files] Shin-ei/Univox Uni-Vibe

Posted: 12 Oct 2012, 16:05
by kymar
Actually you are exaggerating the risk.
What about the noise, how noisy is the UV in fact?
With competent arrangement of components shouldn`t be any voltage induction.

Re: [Replica Files] Shin-ei/Univox Uni-Vibe

Posted: 12 Oct 2012, 16:10
by kymar
In Wattson scheme we have 22v after rectifier diode

Re: [Replica Files] Shin-ei/Univox Uni-Vibe

Posted: 12 Oct 2012, 16:14
by kymar
is obtained we should have 18 volts at the input of the device?

Re: [Replica Files] Shin-ei/Univox Uni-Vibe

Posted: 12 Oct 2012, 16:17
by sinner
kymar wrote:Actually you are exaggerating the risk.
What about the noise, how noisy is the UV in fact?
With competent arrangement of components shouldn`t be any voltage induction.
With lil human around you there is no risk exaggeration

This is not only my errors hazard. Fluids around your pedalboard - bear, coffee (tea in UK) washing machine failure, unhappy audience urine, no matter - can kill you if split over your fancy, mains powered opto phaser...
In Wattson scheme we have 22v after rectifier diode
There is no regulator circuits in the walls, voltage always vary depend of the part of the day, or home equipment power consumption. I wouldn't argue about this topic to much

Re: [Replica Files] Shin-ei/Univox Uni-Vibe

Posted: 12 Oct 2012, 16:26
by sinner
Found it, quote by RG.Keen
The ones I measured were about 18-19Vdc unregulated, and the R-C sections dropped that down to about 16Vdc on the audio phase line. But there were at least two releases of the PCB, perhaps they had different versions of the power transformer too. The 16Vdc is why I picked a 7815 regulator for the first Neovibes, back in the 90s. I've had lots of testimony from builders over the last decade or so that those duplicate the original Univibe sound if built correctly, even with (only) 15V in the signal line.

Re: [Replica Files] Shin-ei/Univox Uni-Vibe

Posted: 20 Oct 2012, 19:16
by andregarcia57
beedotman wrote:Here's gut shot:
Image

what is the stereo jack that you are using to control external expression pedal?

http://www.banzaimusic.com/Jack-STE-LUGS-ECO.html
http://www.banzaimusic.com/Amphenol-ACJS-MHS.html

thanks

Re: [Replica Files] Shin-ei/Univox Uni-Vibe

Posted: 21 Oct 2012, 06:51
by fakcior
It has to be switched, like this one: http://www.banzaimusic.com/Cliff-STE-LUGS-BLK.html

Re: [Replica Files] Shin-ei/Univox Uni-Vibe

Posted: 26 Oct 2012, 19:07
by beedotman
drilling.... DONE!
resistors.... DONE!
diodes.... DONE!
8)

Re: [Replica Files] Shin-ei/Univox Uni-Vibe

Posted: 26 Oct 2012, 19:54
by sinner
beedotman wrote:drilling.... DONE!
resistors.... DONE!
diodes.... DONE!
8)

Well DONE :)

Re: [Replica Files] Shin-ei/Univox Uni-Vibe

Posted: 28 Oct 2012, 03:43
by ED5150
beedotman wrote:drilling.... DONE!
resistors.... DONE!
diodes.... DONE!
8)
What diodes are you using? 1N4001?

Re: [Replica Files] Shin-ei/Univox Uni-Vibe

Posted: 28 Oct 2012, 10:15
by beedotman
ED5150 wrote:
beedotman wrote:drilling.... DONE!
resistors.... DONE!
diodes.... DONE!
8)
What diodes are you using? 1N4001?
yup! :thumbsup

Re: [Replica Files] Shin-ei/Univox Uni-Vibe

Posted: 29 Oct 2012, 01:32
by danielzink
beedotman wrote:
ED5150 wrote:
beedotman wrote:drilling.... DONE!
resistors.... DONE!
diodes.... DONE!
8)
What diodes are you using? 1N4001?
yup! :thumbsup

That brown Paxolin is dead sexy.....as well as all those carbon comps....

Who did your board....

and where'd you source the resistors ?

Dan

Re: [Replica Files] Shin-ei/Univox Uni-Vibe

Posted: 29 Oct 2012, 04:57
by Fastocker
Oh lordy, I want one of those brown boards . . . . . somebody sell me one!

Re: [Replica Files] Shin-ei/Univox Uni-Vibe

Posted: 29 Oct 2012, 08:41
by beedotman
danielzink wrote: That brown Paxolin is dead sexy.....as well as all those carbon comps....

Who did your board....

and where'd you source the resistors ?

Dan
ask Brook from http://pigeonfx.com, maybe he will be able to eatch pcb's on paxolin for ya
pcb layout is availiable on http://turretboard.org

AB resistors are from ebay - from this seller:
https://www.ebay.com/usr/bigsmythe74
not cheap project, though..

Re: [Replica Files] Shin-ei/Univox Uni-Vibe

Posted: 29 Oct 2012, 09:41
by sinner
Yep, Brook have my blessing, tons of experience, and load of paxolin to supply half of the world with UV replica boards :D

Anyway, my entry - 915 spec first

Re: [Replica Files] Shin-ei/Univox Uni-Vibe

Posted: 29 Oct 2012, 12:11
by beedotman
Najs! :shock:
What trannies did You used?

Re: [Replica Files] Shin-ei/Univox Uni-Vibe

Posted: 29 Oct 2012, 15:59
by sinner
BC183L's

Re: [Replica Files] Shin-ei/Univox Uni-Vibe

Posted: 29 Oct 2012, 17:01
by andregarcia57
what is the difference between sound schemes?

(factory) (J.Sproul)

thanks

Re: [Replica Files] Shin-ei/Univox Uni-Vibe

Posted: 29 Oct 2012, 19:32
by sinner
andregarcia57 wrote:what is the difference between sound schemes?

(factory) (J.Sproul)

thanks
Yes, have you seen our website?