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Very generous of you to share this !

One little word of advice, though: 20 mm for the edge isn't an awful lot, especially if there's going to be padding in there as well.
I just measured my Swanson Amp Cradle and its edge is 35mm without the padding.

rocklander wrote:you inspired me to have a go (some time) at making a smaller version for my pedals. . . so will be looking to make one to the max size of a 1590bb

Hi Rocklander - I love your idea of making a pedal-sized version. You could use much thinner dowels, and the 'cheeks could be (say) 10mm instead of 18, as there'd be no weight to carry. Please 'post' it when you've finally built it.

I understand and sympathise about workspace shortage (same here - and probably for loads of the guys). I'd still be tempted, however, to build a pedal stand that could take a 1590DD - just in case you should ever want to build a Super-Hoochie . . wotsit, or a Compo . . Graphi-Klon variant (they're quite addictive once you've tried them).

Anyway, good luck with it (whenever it happens)

Cub wrote:20 mm for the edge isn't an awful lot, especially if there's going to be padding in there as well.
I just measured my Swanson Amp Cradle and its edge is 35mm without the padding.

Hi Cub,

I agree that 20mm doesn't sound much, especially when there's the foam padding too - but it works fine, and the amp is totally secure (as you can see in the original pictures).

The sheer weight of the amp acts vertically downwards, so there's no way it can jump over the lip (and I've tried pulling the amp over the lip, but it didn't want to budge). I'm quite relaxed, however, if people want to make theirs with bigger lips. I offer the template as a starter, and I'm sure everyone will make theirs slightly different.

Thanks for your feedback, though, as it may make others stop and think before they start cutting their wood.

ppluis0 wrote: BTW: how long ago the British were forced to adopt the decimal measurement system ?

IIRC it was 1972, but it may have been 71. We are supposed to use metric but imperial is still used a lot especialy by older people (older than me and I am old). Younger people generally use metric.

I was at college at the changeover so one year we were taught imperial, when we came back after the summer break and we are all metric. I use which ever is most convenient.

Lucifer wrote: Hi Rocklander - I love your idea of making a pedal-sized version. You could use much thinner dowels, and the 'cheeks could be (say) 10mm instead of 18, as there'd be no weight to carry. Please 'post' it when you've finally built it.

I understand and sympathise about workspace shortage (same here - and probably for loads of the guys). I'd still be tempted, however, to build a pedal stand that could take a 1590DD - just in case you should ever want to build a Super-Hoochie . . wotsit, or a Compo . . Graphi-Klon variant (they're quite addictive once you've tried them).

Anyway, good luck with it (whenever it happens)

9odd minutes later and here's what I came up with.. by no means on the same quality scale as yours but I'm all about function over form.
the pedals being so much lighter, there's really only any need for one dowel. I had no dowel as such about the place, so cut a piece of this fibreglass rod (used for an electric fence).. the thinness of the 'support' wood ('stringers' I guess ) means I could move it in between knobs if the enclosure was larger than 1590BB and still support the thing I reckon.

anyhoo.. here 'tis.

Fantastic job Rocklander.

Like I said in my early post, simple is best.

You certainly don't waste time when you've got a bee in your bonnet !

Congratulations mate.

Lucifer wrote:

Pruttelherrie wrote:This is mine:

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Hi Pruttelherrie - your design looks pretty much like how mine started out. I like your locking screws - great idea. It looks like it'll handle a wide range of amps.

The bottom plate is actually upside down in the photo to show that the bolts are recessed. The holes on the lefthand side have a different pitch from the ones on the right, so I can tweak the exact width of the stands.

That said, I'm totally gonna build your version, it's so much more convenient to have the amp angled with a flick of the wrist! Thanks for posting the template!

I like your suggestion of using mine for a footrest - but I fell off the workbench when I tried to take a photo of my feet in the stand

I'm going to have you find out by yourself that the stand should be placed on the ground first

deltafred wrote:We are supposed to use metric but imperial is still used a lot especialy by older people...

Thank you for your answer, Deltafred.

Prior to migrate to metric I guess that you had some years using inches but expressed with decimal places, instead to employ fractions.

Example: rather than write "1 3/4 inches" you wrote "1.75 inches", or is merely my supossition ?

Cheers,
Jose

ppluis0 wrote: Example: rather than write "1 3/4 inches" you wrote "1.75 inches", or is merely my supossition ?

Cheers,
Jose

(I started out briefly as a mechanical engineer before studying for an electronics degree and eventually switching to software as that was where the jobs were.)

You are quite correct, every dimension on a drawing was expressed in the form 1.75 so all that changed was the size of the units.

The people who struggle with the metric system were the ones who didn’t really understand the imperial one, the ones who only used 1 3/4 .


Cub
Love it, but don't forget that the Americans inherited Imperial measurements from the Brits, we really know how to make life difficult.

Boy am I glad I did the Amp Stand dimensions in metric !

I would hate to have had to 'mush' all the way to Argentina with ppluis

that a good question actually, I always wondered why the imperial scale is still used.

is there any reason for that ?

Probably for a variety of reasons, when I worked in my dad's workshop as an apprentice Fitter and Machinist, not only did I have to use the imperial system, I also had to use the Whitworth system too, which is a little different to the Imperial system, while working on machines like a Lathe and a Milling Machine, I would be dealing with measurements in thousandths of an inch......

Simon

Whitworth is an Imperial thread standard as I am sure you know.

Whitworth was the guy who invented the screw cutting lathe IIRC (I could Google it but am working from memory here), he hand cut cut the first leadscrew with a hammer and chisel, then fitted it in his lathe and used it to turn another which averaged out the pitch errors, He then fitted that in his lath and cut another and repeated until he was happy with the result. You've gotta respect a guy with such vision and dedication.

Over the years the Brits have used
British Standard Whitworth (BSW),
British Standard Fine (BSF), same thread form as Whitworth but finer pitch.
BA (British Assosciation).
UNF and UNC (Unified National Fine and Coarse (American std.)),
Metric.
Plus an assortment of specialised threads which include Brass, British Standard Pipe (BSP) and Cycle threads. (And lots more besides).

How much easier it would be to have a single standard, like Metric!

deltafred wrote:Simon

Whitworth is an Imperial thread standard as I am sure you know.

Whitworth was the guy who invented the screw cutting lathe IIRC (I could Google it but am working from memory here), he hand cut cut the first leadscrew with a hammer and chisel, then fitted it in his lathe and used it to turn another which averaged out the pitch errors, He then fitted that in his lath and cut another and repeated until he was happy with the result. You've gotta respect a guy with such vision and dedication.

Over the years the Brits have used
British Standard Whitworth (BSW),
British Standard Fine (BSF), same thread form as Whitworth but finer pitch.
BA (British Assosciation).
UNF and UNC (Unified National Fine and Coarse (American std.)),
Metric.
Plus an assortment of specialised threads which include Brass, British Standard Pipe (BSP) and Cycle threads. (And lots more besides).

How much easier it would be to have a single standard, like Metric!

Yeah, I totally agree, Whitworth must have been a pretty smart guy to work that out deltafred.....


I think that the different standards were partly due to humans being humans and not wanting to agree on one standard, they had some pretty unusual standards back in ancient times, and Biblical times too......

Lucifer wrote:I would hate to have had to 'mush' all the way to Argentina with ppluis

After all the slang meaning of mush is "friend", so you're invited here when you wish...

DrNomis wrote: I think that the different standards were partly due to humans being humans and not wanting to agree on one standard, they had some pretty unusual standards back in ancient times, and Biblical times too......

I don't think it is so much that they couldn't agree but that they developed semi independently, then as globalisation has spread so have the standards. They all developed from Whitworth's original work but were adaptations and improvements upon it as engineering techniques and materials advanced.

An interesting/oddball thing about the spanners (wrenches) for UK derived threads is that they refer to the thread diameter, not the distance between the flats as the rest of the world uses. Another way that the Brits have found to make life difficult or maybe the rest of the world learned from our mistakes.

It didn't help during WW2 when the hexagon sizes for nuts and bolts were reduced by one size from the BSW standard to save on metal usage. So then a spanner would be marked something like 1/4 BSW, 5/16 BSF. It was neither of these measurements across the flats. The formula 1.5 x diameter + 1/8" springs to mind for BSW but don't quote me on that.

Aww Hell LUCY !!

I've built more amp stands than I have amps.
Your solution is so elegant , simple , practical ( insert half of Thesaurus here ) - That they should be made compulsory !
What's even better is , I reckon I already have everything required to knock one together ( I suppose most people would ).
Can somebody please buy this man a beer for Me ?

Cheers Tasteless.

The imaginary beer is going down nicely.

I'm glad you like the design of the stand, and hope you have fun building and using one.

Lucifer wrote:Cheers Tasteless.

The imaginary beer is going down nicely.

I'm glad you like the design of the stand, and hope you have fun building and using one.

Now watch as variations of your brilliant design pop up on boutique amp websites and Asian online megastores for the next 3 years or so! You can call me cynical....