Best Vero software for mac

soggybag · Post by **soggybag** » 22 Feb 2013, 00:14

I downloaded DIY Layout Creator. Seems to work well enough, but the layouts don't look that great. I like this style:

The version I have makes layouts like this:

The style of the board and parts isn't as nice or as easy to read.

roseblood11 · Post by **roseblood11** » 22 Feb 2013, 07:40

Isn't version 2 based on java as well? Should look closer to version 1.

grrrunge · Post by **grrrunge** » 22 Feb 2013, 08:50

The top one is from Storm software. Follow the link in the bottom of the image

The bottom one is banchika's diylc - not the same thing.

roseblood11 · Post by **roseblood11** » 22 Feb 2013, 10:04

Both are from bancika, it's version 1 and 3.
I agree with soggybag: Version 3 may have a lot of improvements and options, but I like the simplicity and readability of the old layouts better.

grrrunge · Post by **grrrunge** » 22 Feb 2013, 12:57

roseblood11 wrote:Both are from bancika, it's version 1 and 3.
I agree with soggybag: Version 3 may have a lot of improvements and options, but I like the simplicity and readability of the old layouts better.

Is Bancika and storm software the same guy?
The storm software DIY layout creator is available here: http://www.storm-software.com/software/freeware.html
and Bancika's DIYLC v.1, v.2 and v.3 is available here: http://code.google.com/p/diy-layout-creator/

~arph · Post by **~arph** » 22 Feb 2013, 15:39

Yes,

And on the latest version of DIYLC you can actually change the colors of all components to whatever you like.. so that basic clean look can be achieved too.. you just need to adjust the colors.

soggybag · Post by **soggybag** » 23 Feb 2013, 01:49

The first version looks much better. I like the part inventory display in the first version also.

Seems the first version is Window. I couldn't find a mac version.

The current version has many problems. The current version I am using does allow you to set the transparency of parts, but you have to set it with a slider for each part individually. Which is tedious and in accurate. Parts like resistors are wider than strips on vero, which makes things overlap. When you have a resistor standing up the label is not shown.

I wish I could get the older version on the Mac.

Not sure, but it seems there might be a way to get a template with the older style art?

grrrunge · Post by **grrrunge** » 23 Feb 2013, 12:17

soggybag wrote:I wish I could get the older version on the Mac.

You can

Download the windows version, and use this to make an emulator-wrapper: http://www.winehq.org/
I used this to get all sorts of DIY tools running on my mac. Duncan's tone stack calculator amongst others

Electric Warrior · Post by **Electric Warrior** » 25 Feb 2013, 14:23

soggybag wrote: The current version has many problems. The current version I am using does allow you to set the transparency of parts, but you have to set it with a slider for each part individually. Which is tedious and in accurate. Parts like resistors are wider than strips on vero, which makes things overlap. When you have a resistor standing up the label is not shown.

That's an improvement. You'd only want the components that have trace cuts underneath them to be translucent to make things easier to read, wouldn't you? And you can set part sizes individually so they layouts come out very realistic. No nasty surprises when putting the circuit together anymore.

~arph · Post by **~arph** » 25 Feb 2013, 18:38

soggybag wrote:The first version looks much better. I like the part inventory display in the first

The current version has many problems. The current version I am using does allow you to set the transparency of parts, but you have to set it with a slider for each part individually. Which is tedious and in accurate. Parts like resistors are wider than strips on vero, which makes things overlap. When you have a resistor standing up the label is not shown.

You need some more time with the new version. You can set transparency for a type of component and check the checkbox to the right. After this it will use that transparency for all next components of that type. Plus you can change the width of resistors too...

The parts list is a component called BOM.. It's in there too

Dr Tony Balls · Post by **Dr Tony Balls** » 26 Feb 2013, 14:15

Yeah the newest version is really great. Like any software you have to learn it to really get all you can out of it. My ONLY gripe with it is that when resistors stand-up their labeling doesnt show. The fix for this seems to be to make the resistor length really short so they never stand up on the drawing, but it'd be nice if it was automatic. Personally I hate standing up resistors so this really isnt an issue for me unless I get a special request for a really tight build.

~arph · Post by **~arph** » 26 Feb 2013, 14:44

Dr Tony Balls wrote: My ONLY gripe with it is that when resistors stand-up their labeling doesnt show. The fix for this seems to be to make the resistor length really short so they never stand up on the drawing, but it'd be nice if it was automatic.

Yep.. I add a label manually when this happens.. (and it happens a lot when I do vero's

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