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Re: Wampler Faux Spring Reverb
Posted: 13 Jan 2014, 03:45
by Beedoola
indyguitarist wrote:Beedoola wrote:I think I fixed the output...
Look at the application circuit on page 3 of this pdf:
https://www.smallbearelec.com/Projects/BTDR-1H.pdf
hint: Notice the last opamp stage. That can be turned into a low pass filter very easily.
You are close, but still not there.

I appreciate the hint but I'm very noobish and I can't figure anything out from the Belton PDF. Perhaps someone more savvy than myself can figure it out.
Re: Wampler Faux Spring Reverb
Posted: 13 Jan 2014, 08:22
by biliousfrog
indyguitarist wrote:Beedoola wrote:I think I fixed the output...
Look at the application circuit on page 3 of this pdf:
https://www.smallbearelec.com/Projects/BTDR-1H.pdf
hint: Notice the last opamp stage. That can be turned into a low pass filter very easily.
You are close, but still not there.

It has been said numerous times before but: Brian, you really are a gent. Many lesser designers/builders would have been upset that their pedals were being de-constructed, yet you're offering gentle encouragement like a primary school teacher.

Re: Wampler Faux Spring Reverb
Posted: 13 Jan 2014, 15:53
by indyguitarist
biliousfrog wrote:indyguitarist wrote:Beedoola wrote:I think I fixed the output...
Look at the application circuit on page 3 of this pdf:
https://www.smallbearelec.com/Projects/BTDR-1H.pdf
hint: Notice the last opamp stage. That can be turned into a low pass filter very easily.
You are close, but still not there.

It has been said numerous times before but: Brian, you really are a gent. Many lesser designers/builders would have been upset that their pedals were being de-constructed, yet you're offering gentle encouragement like a primary school teacher.

Thank you, I appreciate that

Re: Wampler Faux Spring Reverb
Posted: 20 Jan 2014, 00:51
by Beedoola
I breadboarded the circuit and it sounds great but I still can't figure what Brian from Wampler is talking about.
Re: Wampler Faux Spring Reverb
Posted: 20 Jan 2014, 03:17
by indyguitarist
Beedoola wrote:I breadboarded the circuit and it sounds great but I still can't figure what Brian from Wampler is talking about.
I'm sure it'll work as the schematic posted has it, it's just not the faux spring reverb circuit from us. You need a variable low pass filter on there that's inverting.
Re: Wampler Faux Spring Reverb
Posted: 20 Jan 2014, 04:58
by mmolteratx
Try the datasheet mixer with the 50k pot in series with the 22n cap in the NFB. I think that's what Brian's saying. See the Deuce Coupe tone control for what I'm talking about.
EDIT: Wait, I forgot I drew this up months ago. Here's the schem.
EDIT2: Holy crap, it's been almost a year. My bad.

Re: Wampler Faux Spring Reverb
Posted: 21 Jan 2014, 08:46
by Beedoola
mmolteratx wrote:Try the datasheet mixer with the 50k pot in series with the 22n cap in the NFB. I think that's what Brian's saying. See the Deuce Coupe tone control for what I'm talking about.
EDIT: Wait, I forgot I drew this up months ago. Here's the schem.
EDIT2: Holy crap, it's been almost a year. My bad.

rad! it works!!
Re: Wampler Faux Spring Reverb
Posted: 22 Jan 2014, 15:18
by Beedoola
The decay on mine is a little shorter, and I'm guessing the brick in the Faux isn't a Short.
Anyone know? The label on the brick is removed...
Re: Wampler Faux Spring Reverb
Posted: 22 Jan 2014, 19:59
by Blend
you can find the specifications in this site Wampler, "2.8s max reverb time."
R4 in the picture seems to 33k .....?
Re: Wampler Faux Spring Reverb
Posted: 22 Jan 2014, 23:54
by Mbas974
R4 33K could makes sense, it is a high pass filter with 22n cap.
Working point down to 219hz instead 2.19Khz
Thanks, Blend !
Re: Wampler Faux Spring Reverb
Posted: 23 Jan 2014, 16:44
by Beedoola
Blend wrote:you can find the specifications in this site Wampler, "2.8s max reverb time."
R4 in the picture seems to 33k .....?
Yes, thanks! Good eye. I looked over a pic I took of the PCb and it is a 33k.
And thanks for pointing out the 2.8 seconds on the Wampler site. Problem solved!
Re: Wampler Faux Spring Reverb
Posted: 08 Feb 2014, 05:27
by Beedoola
here are some build shots

Re: Wampler Faux Spring Reverb
Posted: 16 Mar 2014, 06:49
by fuzzfiend
Looking at the schematic, what is the benefit of using a J201 on the output of the brick rather than the unused op amp?

Re: Wampler Faux Spring Reverb
Posted: 22 Apr 2014, 08:51
by gibsonvedran
I tried the last schematic and I don't think is correct, the depht control does not work as it should, It increase the volume of 'the effect at max setting...it's normal? You have had success with that scheme ?
Re: Wampler Faux Spring Reverb
Posted: 22 Apr 2014, 10:34
by fretzburner
Re: Wampler Faux Spring Reverb
Posted: 22 Apr 2014, 17:56
by gibsonvedran
which is the schematic that you used?
Re: Wampler Faux Spring Reverb
Posted: 22 Apr 2014, 22:02
by Beedoola
Damn, dude. Crazy nice perf work!!
gibsonvedran wrote:which is the schematic that you used?
I'm willing to bet he used the schematic a few posts above provided by MMolterax. Thats what I used as well.
Re: Wampler Faux Spring Reverb
Posted: 22 Apr 2014, 22:10
by gibsonvedran
But with that schematic the depth raise the volume of the verb more the length of decay... The decay is the same in all depth settings... Your depth control is ok beedoola?
Re: Wampler Faux Spring Reverb
Posted: 22 Apr 2014, 22:17
by gibsonvedran
mmolterax schematic is equal to your schematic Beedoola...
And brian said that your schematic was not correct... "You are close, but still not there."
Re: Wampler Faux Spring Reverb
Posted: 22 Apr 2014, 23:11
by fretzburner
Yes the schematic above is what i'm using (R4 -33k) and sounds fine to me.