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Bassman Preamp
Posted: 04 Apr 2013, 00:19
by jaylow
Hello! It's my first time posting here. I was inspired by ROG's Professor Tweed and decided to take the '63 bassman and reproduce it using JFETs instead of tubes. I took cues from the Prof Tweed and this schematic for a modified Bassman amp and came up with this. I was wondering if anyone could have a look at this stripboard layout I came up with and tell me if I was on the right track or if I missed something.
Bassman schematic here:
http://web.archive.org/web/200203170604 ... assman.gif
Professor Tweed schematic here:
http://www.runoffgroove.com/professor.html
Re: Bassman Preamp
Posted: 04 Apr 2013, 00:37
by Dr Tony Balls
It'd be easier if you drew up a schematic for your design to reference.
Re: Bassman Preamp
Posted: 04 Apr 2013, 06:27
by jaylow
I followed this:
http://web.archive.org/web/200203170604 ... assman.gif
It was also at the end of my original post. The only difference is that instead of having a power transformer, it's just 9V running through a 100k pot to bias the transistors.
Re: Bassman Preamp
Posted: 04 Apr 2013, 08:19
by tictac
Niether of those circuits resemble a Fender Bassman of any vintage I've ever seen...
The 5F6-A is the classic most copied Bassman circuit and the basis for the Early Marshall amps and a bunch of tweed bassman copies...
If you're looking for a distortion box it would be a good circuit to look at...
TT
Re: Bassman Preamp
Posted: 04 Apr 2013, 13:19
by Dr Tony Balls
What I mean is draw an actual schematic of what you're trying to put to board, not give us two different schematics and say that your plan is to combine them. There's a lot of variability there.
tictac wrote:Niether of those circuits resemble a Fender Bassman of any vintage I've ever seen...
You've NEVER seen a Blonde, Blackface, or Silverface Bassman? Pity you, they're great amps...

Re: Bassman Preamp
Posted: 04 Apr 2013, 22:43
by tictac
You've NEVER seen a Blonde, Blackface, or Silverface Bassman? Pity you, they're great amps...
Actually I've seen and worked on plenty of all the above.... Never seen a Blonde, Black, or Silverface Bassman with a 25k mid control and a 3rd stage that had negative feedback and a presence control. But hey I'm willing to say I don't know everything... If you have a schematic of a Bassman like that I'd love to see it or at least know the model number you're refering to.
I've got a complete set of vintage Fender schematic books and a set of factory schematics and the closest circuit this so called "Baby Bassman" resembles is the Normal channel of a 6G6-B.
In the 6G6-B There's no 25k mid control, the treble control is different (350k tapped pot w/ .005 uF to ground), and there's no 3rd gain stage. So I still don't see why you think this is a Fender Bassman circuit. It looks more like a Blackface Showman but with different values and no bright switch....
If I've missed something please feel free to educate me...
TT
Re: Bassman Preamp
Posted: 05 Apr 2013, 07:25
by jaylow
It is a 6G6-B, it's just been modified for that extra stage and mid pot. I think the guy who designed it used to post here. I think he's one of the people who also started suggesting the use of fets for tubes in circuits like these. Once I got to the final fet, I wasn't sure what to do, which is where the professor tweed came in. That's where I borrowed ROG's "artistic license" and adopted the twin low pass filters that they used on their circuit.
Anyway, I redrew my schematic from scratch. I did it by hand because I couldn't figure out how to draw out the schematic diagram for pots in DIYLC. I also couldn't fit together as a single schematic so I broke it into two halves. The stars show where to connect the two. Please let me know how my stripboard compares with the diagram. Thanks!
Re: Bassman Preamp
Posted: 08 Apr 2013, 00:35
by jaylow
So how does it compare to the schematic?