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KENT EA-3 FUZZ TONE BENDER

Posted: 21 Mar 2014, 04:48
by LucifersTrip
I couldn't find a schematic, sound files or any great gut shots of this one...There's some decent pics at:
http://www.effectsdatabase.com/model/kent/ea3

Anyway, lemme know if this has already been traced or if there's any schemes or sound files out there.
If not, I'll open it up shortly.

I can tell you it's sounds like it's a Fuzz Rite topology. It blends a fuzz into a "clean" signal the exact same way.
The big difference is that the "clean" is louder, bassier (almost muddy) and a bit more distorted and at full ("increase"),
there's still a large chunk of "clean" still in the mix...like a Fuzz Rite at 50% fuzz.

Here's some clear outside shots with the instructions.

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Re: KENT EA-3 FUZZ TONE BENDER

Posted: 21 Mar 2014, 22:43
by lowbrow
Is that the same as the Walco?

Re: KENT EA-3 FUZZ TONE BENDER

Posted: 22 Mar 2014, 02:26
by LucifersTrip
Probably, or at least very close...but when I posted this I couldn't find the schematic or guts for a Walco Fuzz either.

Do you have a schematic or gut shot?

Re: KENT EA-3 FUZZ TONE BENDER

Posted: 22 Mar 2014, 10:47
by lowbrow
LucifersTrip wrote:Do you have a schematic or gut shot?
Wish I did. Keep meaning to buy one, but it just hasn't happened yet. Have never been able to find either on the net.

Re: KENT EA-3 FUZZ TONE BENDER

Posted: 22 Mar 2014, 14:17
by jreeves47
love the belt clip

Re: KENT EA-3 FUZZ TONE BENDER

Posted: 22 Mar 2014, 18:59
by jrod
Attached is a schematic of the Walco unit I've had saved for a while. I have no idea if it is correct.

Re: KENT EA-3 FUZZ TONE BENDER

Posted: 22 Mar 2014, 20:22
by IvIark
47pf output cap? There's not going to be much bass coming out of that.

Re: KENT EA-3 FUZZ TONE BENDER

Posted: 22 Mar 2014, 21:21
by mirosol
IvIark wrote:47pf output cap? There's not going to be much bass coming out of that.
:hmmm: The pot will let the bass through from the first transistor. I think i'm interested...

Re: KENT EA-3 FUZZ TONE BENDER

Posted: 23 Mar 2014, 01:31
by IvIark
Ha yeah I didn't even see that, I thought it was just the usual ground connection for the volume pot but it's a blend control isn't it

Re: KENT EA-3 FUZZ TONE BENDER

Posted: 23 Mar 2014, 01:51
by LucifersTrip
Yes, a blend control...see my first post.

I opened it up, took some gut shots and just finished hand drawing the traced schematic last night.

jrod, thanx for posting the Walco scheme... When searching a few days ago I found the DIYSB link from 2006,
but the schematic link was dead:
https://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/ ... ic=52076.0

Cool that you saved it...I now know I traded it correctly...

The Kent is very close with a couple small changes.

I'll post the guts, scheme & voltages shortly...

Re: KENT EA-3 FUZZ TONE BENDER

Posted: 29 Mar 2014, 22:53
by LucifersTrip
Ok, as promised, here's the rundown.

guts from afar:

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guts top side:

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guts top side labeled:

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guts bottom side:

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guts bottom side labeled:

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schematic with voltages (new 9.6V battery):

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transistors used:

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It's breadboarded and confirmed and sounds almost identical to the original.
If you want to hit the voltages in the original, use hfe around 350-400 for Q1 and
250-300 for Q2.

The 47pF in the Walco schematic posted earlier is most likely incorrect. If you use
the 47pF, you'll barely get ant fuzz in the mix.

Possible mods:
1) I could tell little or no difference with the 18K removed
2) Experiment with a smaller Q1 BC cap. The .01uF is kinda large. If you remove it
totally, it's noisy and the distorted clean/fuzz blend is not good.
3) Recommended: Increase the 12K for more volume & fuzz. Even better, place a
50K pot in series between the 12K and ground. Increase K for more volume & fuzz.
Note, if you lift the 12K completely, you will get more volume & fuzz, but the sound
(distorted clean/fuzz blend is not as good).

anyway, have a blast

Re: KENT EA-3 FUZZ TONE BENDER

Posted: 31 Mar 2014, 08:37
by mirosol
The mistake with the 47/470 cap is quite understandable. The value marking with "470" and "471" mean the same thing on cheap ceramics and multilayered ceramics. I may have been baffled about this myself at one point...

Anyway. Thanks LT for photos and a trace!

Here's my stripboard layout for the circuit. I've added input pulldown to prevent popping and a series polarity protection. Currently unverified.

Re: KENT EA-3 FUZZ TONE BENDER

Posted: 03 Apr 2014, 06:50
by LucifersTrip
^ looks cool...maybe someone will try it.

Since I already have the original sound, I decided to improve my "clone" to my taste.

There's one main thing I wanted to do.

As I wrote above, the dirty "clean" part of the mix is always WAY up in there. I wanted to be able to
knock that down a bit, just leaving the fuzz.

The stock is at unity volume or a bit higher, but what keeps it there is the dirty "clean" part of the blend. If
you knock that out and just leave the fuzz, you'll be below unity.

The goal was to keep it true to the original sound, but take it further...not turn it into a
standard Fuzz Rite.

After a bunch of experimenting, I'm going with this.

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If you have both pots full counter clockwise, you have identical to the original counter clockwise.
Slowly turn the 1M clockwise and at maybe about 25-30% you'll have what the stock sounds like maxed out.
As you turn the 1M further clockwise, the dirty "clean" slowly drops out leaving more fuzz. Turn the 100K
counter clockwise and the volume increases along with the fuzz intensity.

Now you can get a perfect mix of clean, fuzz and all at the volume you want.

Re: KENT EA-3 FUZZ TONE BENDER

Posted: 03 Apr 2014, 06:54
by LucifersTrip
should say:

"Turn the 100K clockwise and the volume increases along with the fuzz intensity. "

Re: KENT EA-3 FUZZ TONE BENDER

Posted: 28 Dec 2022, 22:27
by wjmwpg
LucifersTrip wrote: 03 Apr 2014, 06:50 Since I already have the original sound, I decided to improve my "clone" to my taste.
[ . . . ]
After a bunch of experimenting, I'm going with this.

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Hi LucifersTrip, I know that almost 9 years has gone by but I’d love to see this modded schematic of yours if you could re-upload it. Cheers!

Re: KENT EA-3 FUZZ TONE BENDER

Posted: 28 Dec 2022, 23:55
by george giblet
Hi LucifersTrip, I know that almost 9 years has gone by but I’d love to see this modded schematic of yours if you could re-upload it. Cheers!
LT did a lot of work back-engineering old pedals then modding them to get to them work.

I hope he doesn't mind me reposting his old schematics.

Can I ask that:
- his LT signature is not removed from the schematics.
- if you modify LT's schematics make sure it's clear *you* modified it.
Put some text like "modified by <yourname>" and the date.

Original (drawn by LT):
kent-fuzz-schematic.jpg
Modded by LT:
kent-fuzz-schematic-mod.jpg
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Re: KENT EA-3 FUZZ TONE BENDER

Posted: 02 Jan 2023, 00:19
by wjmwpg
george giblet wrote: 28 Dec 2022, 23:55LT did a lot of work back-engineering old pedals then modding them to get to them work.

I hope he doesn't mind me reposting his old schematics.

Can I ask that:
- his LT signature is not removed from the schematics.
- if you modify LT's schematics make sure it's clear *you* modified it.
Put some text like "modified by <yourname>" and the date.
Absolutely George. Thank you very much for posting these.