Franklin Prodrive

deaconque · Post by **deaconque** » 02 May 2008, 06:15

Anyone seen this yet? I like how they keep mentioning that it's "Pro Level"

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https://cgi.ebay.com/FRANKLIN-PRODRIVE- ... dZViewItem

oscarv77 · Post by **oscarv77** » 02 May 2008, 15:13

I think he used up his yearly allotment of capital letters.

My eyes... they hurt.

Greg · Post by **Greg** » 04 May 2008, 00:02

Tubescreamer !

rfranklin · Post by **rfranklin** » 31 May 2008, 16:34

Yes....all caps was for those who need reading glasses...
And..yes..honest...pro level.

Remember, it's not until you've ridden a horse, that you can tell how it rides

RFranklin

Dirk_Hendrik · Post by **Dirk_Hendrik** » 31 May 2008, 16:57

true,

Still there's a lot of the classic "look mommy, I made a pedal myself so it's booteek" blabla there. Personally I experience every claim that says something like "the best ever" as a reason not to buy the thing. And believe me, I've played them all too.

Dirk_Hendrik · Post by **Dirk_Hendrik** » 31 May 2008, 16:59

I just checked your site.

I offer you 5 dollars for your caps lock button and will pay shipping as well.

bajaman · Post by **bajaman** » 31 May 2008, 20:10

FRANKLIN PRODRIVE OVERDRIVE/DIST
FREE SHIPPING TO LOWER U.S. 48 w/BIN PURCHASE

SEVENTH ONE TO BE SOLD!! (#9 build)
TRUE MECHANICAL 3PDT BYPASS SWITCHING
FOR THOSE WHO NEED TRUE BY-PASS

(INCLUDES AN ASSORTMENT OF OP AMPS!)

IF YOU'RE INTERESTED DON'T WAIT TOO LONG....
I CAN ONLY BUILD THEM..SO FAST

BOUTIQUE AND HAND BUILT.
NOT FOR THE AVERAGE PLAYER,
THIS IS A PRO LEVEL OVERDRIVE...
IT COMES WITH 2 BURR BROWN POWERSOUND PLUS HI PERF OP AMPS, AND 2 4559HP OP AMPS INSTALLED INTO 2 IC SOCKETS.
IT WILL INCLUDE EXTRA OP AMPS

THE PRODRIVE DOES NOT TAKE BATTERIES..IT IS A PRO LEVEL ITEM SO A 9V BOSS STYLE ADAPTOR IS REQUIRED.
IT HAS 4 OP AMPS, SO IT WOULD KILL BATTERIES QUICKLY ANYWAYZ!

EXTENSIVELY TESTED
THERE IS NOT A BETTER SOUNDING OVERDRIVE ON THE MARKET...PERIOD. I HAVE PLAYED THEM ALL.

VERY SMOOTH BUTTERY OVERDRIVE...TO RAGING OVERDRIVE AT THE CUSP OF DISTORTION.
VERY PICK SENSITIVE AND TRANSPARENT.
EACH NOTE SHINES THROUGH... SUSTAIN IS TREMENDOUS.
READ THE FEEDBACKS ON THE SD-1 SALES AND YOU'LL GET AN IDEA OF WHAT TYPE OF TONE I WORK WITH....THEN IMAGINE THAT..BUT
A LOT MORE !!

I TAKE CARE OF MY CUSTOMERS TOO.

THIS IS PEDAL #9..I HAVE #1 AND MY TESTER HAS #2..
JAPAN GUITARS BOUGHT #3...AND THEY SAID IT WAS THE
BEST PEDAL THEY'VE EVER KNOWN...
ATSUSHI BOUGHT
#4 AND SAID IT SOUNDS LIKE
A DUMBLE OVERDRIVEN AMP, NOW THERE IS A COMPLIMENT!!
AND..I HAVE TO AGREE WITH THAT...IT DOES SOUND LIKE A DUMBLE.
THE LAST PRODRIVE AD DIDN'T LAST 24 HRS.
THE PRODRIVE IS A PROFESSIONAL LEVEL OVERDRIVE/DISTORTION.
IT WILL GIVE YOU LIGHT BOOST/OVERDRIVE AND ALL THE WAY TO RAGING OVERDRIVE/DISTORTION.

YOU WILL NOT FIND AN OVERDRIVE WITH BETTER TONE OR DRIVE.
THE TONE KNOB WORKS LIKE A TREBLE BOOST WHEN TURNED TO THE RIGHT SIDE (TREBLE) AND IT GIVES A VERY SWEET BITE INTO THE DRIVE. THE BASS SIDE GIVES MORE CRUNCH....
THE NICE PART OF THE PRODRIVE, IS YOU CAN ADJUST FOR DIFFERENT GUITARS, PICKUPS AND AMPS TO -GET- WHAT YOU WANT

YOU WILL NOT LACK FOR TONE..

THIS PEDAL WAS DEMONSTRATED AT GUITAR CENTER IN CANTON, MICHIGAN AND DREW A CROWD OF PLAYERS ASKING WHAT PEDAL HE WAS PLAYING THROUGH... AND ..WHEN OR WHERE THEY COULD GET ONE.

THE PRODRIVE HAS BEEN IN DEVELOPMENT FOR OVER A YEAR.
IT HAS 2 IC SOCKETS FOR CHANGING OP AMPS..STACKED OR SINGLE..OR MIX THEM UP IF YOU WANT..
IT CONTAINS ONLY HIGH END PARTS..LOW LOSS CAPS, 3PDT SWITCHING FOR TRUE MECHANICAL BYPASS..MY SIGNATURE BRIGHT GREEN LED LIGHT. IT OPERATES ON A BOSS TYPE 9V POWER SUPPLY

ELECTRONICS (THE IMPORTANT PART) ARE COMPLETE AND READY TO ROCK.
YOU WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED!

I'VE BEEN PLAYING MY PRODRIVE FOR 6 MONTHS WITHOUT A HICKUP..AND I ALWAYS GET COMMENTS ON MY TONE. I DON'T USE A DISTORTION PEDAL AS THIS GIVES ME ALL I NEED WITHOUT GETTING RASPY.
NOT THAT IT DOESN'T HAVE BITE-ABILITY..IT DOES, BUT IT ALWAYS SOUNDS GREAT.
YOU CAN HEAR A QUICK MP3 ON THE FRANKLINPEDALS SITE..

ANY QUESTIONS FEEL FREE TO ASK!

AND...KEEP AN EYE OUT FOR THE FRANKLIN F-PLEX ANALOG DELAY. YOU CAN HEAR AN MP3 OF THE FPLEX ON THE FRANKLINPEDALS*COM SITE.
HAS A SMIDGE OF CHORUS BUILT INTO IT (JUST A SMIDGE..ENOUGH TO SWUEEETEN IT) HAS OVER 400ms OF TRUE ANALOG DELAY WITH 2 BBD DELAY CHIPS AND A MATSUSHITA 3102...ETC..YOU KNOW THE DRILL.
THE GOOD STUFF...AND LOADED WITH TOP END PARTS ACROSS THE BOARD!! NO JUNK OR CHEAP PARTS. TRUE MECHANICAL BYPASS..
IT ONLY HAS 3 KNOBS..AND BELIEVE ME..YOU WON'T NEED ANY MORE.
CAN YA TELL I'M JAZZED?...MORE LATER.
ALSO COMING UP: FRANKLIN PRO DISTORTION
FRANKLIN BLACK BOX BOOST
FRANKLIN CHORUS
FRANKLIN TREMVIBE

rfranklin · Post by **rfranklin** » 06 Jun 2008, 04:20

Yea, Dirk I agree,,there's a ton of the "look mommy" boutique stuff...but my mom is 76 years old and she would be like
"what"?..
And no...my caps lock is not for sale...but I do have a black lab who runs away all the time...He's a good hunter..you can
have him
Besides...my caps lock is platinum...it has to be..the standard one would wear out

Seriously though, I was just looking on this site for some friends. If I'm not welcome, just tell me.

bajaman · Post by **bajaman** » 06 Jun 2008, 09:54

always welcome

- but it does get a bit fiery in here at times - feel free to share in the debate anytime - good technical insights go a long way towards a smooth ride here though

cheers
bajaman

MoreCowbell · Post by **MoreCowbell** » 06 Jun 2008, 15:33

rfranklin wrote: Seriously though, I was just looking on this site for some friends. If I'm not welcome, just tell me.

Everybody is welcome here. The 0nes who stick around are the ones who understand what this site is about.

At it's core, this site is about analyzing circuits...how, why, what could be done to improve it, etc. A side effect is that many of the "original design" boutique pedals that are reverse engineered to see how they're built are found out to be simply a copy of an existing pedal.

Search for posts by BJF, Paul Cochrane, Brian Marshall, etc.,and you'll see how builders can integrate and benefit at the site. It's all about shared information.

But yeah..."caps lock"...it's hard to read, and IMO makes me think of your pedal as "less than professional". I say that not as a "slam" on your pedal...heck, I've never used it...but as the "end consumer". Ad copy is important, and how it is written is a reflection of the attention to detail you can expect from the builder.

That's just my opinion, of course.

rfranklin · Post by **rfranklin** » 29 May 2011, 23:37

It's been about 2 years since I was on this site...took a little flack for my caps lock... haha I guess I had it coming...

But now that there are some bigger names playing my ProDrive pedal...it would surely reside in the Pro level area...which I knew,
but I understand this has to be proven, not just in theory..but to the ears of a musician..and, to his audience..

That said, here's a list of just a few of the touring musicians now using the Franklin ProDrive.

Phil Keaggy (in his live rig and in the studio)
Nicky Moroch (Michael w.Smith, Kathy Tricolli, Brittney Spears...etc) Google Nicky (he does clinics for Paul Reed Smith guitars) fun to watch too

John Bachety here's a utube vid of John playing the ProDrive at the Nashville amp show last August (2010)

Stewart Swanland (Marshall Tucker) (in his live rig) pulled his 2 other overdrives and replace them with a ProDrive.
Jeremy Horn (Memphis)
Scott Greer (Memphis)
Sammy Weaver (Nashville) tours with Todd Agnew
Doyle Dykes (Taylor Guitars) in his home studio for electric work
Chris Isaac
(just a few since late 2009)

Pedal geek now sells the ProDrive
Motor City guitar in Waterford, Michigan (Marty the owner requested them)

So I guess I'm here to encourage any builders out there to not quit...keep up the fight for independence from
the big hug conglomerate companies that hoard musician's money...just for the sake of decent tone.

Don't settle for "that's good enough for rock n roll".
Settle for "that's good enough for me"..AND my friends, AND my audience

Hope this is encouraging to you guys!

Rick Franklin

Greg · Post by **Greg** » 30 May 2011, 00:28

OK.. so the YouTube clip you linked says it's a Klon clone ?
If that's the case then it's all I really need to know.
The guy who designed that circuit already builds a pro grade pedal.

Also, see MoreCowell's post above.
If you'd like to discuss circuits or share some info, you're in the right place.. but if you want to tell us how good your clone is, or try to get some sales for it.. you may be on the wrong forum.

Johnny B · Post by **Johnny B** » 31 May 2011, 16:11

Hello all, The main reason I stay away from all these types of blogs is because of all the negativity. It makes me sick to hear the uninformed purpously attacking something or someone they know nothing about. These people should be ahsamed of themselves. The Franklin Prodive is a killer pedal peroid, and rfranklin is one of the nicest people in the industry. No it's not anything like a tubscreamer, nor does it sound like one. This video was used by a bunch of different pedal makers who added their own lables to it. If you look real close, it clearly states "The Nashville Amp Expo" and I was demoing for "KWCabs". I was testing out a Klon Clone as a boost before everything I played and that person put that tag on the video of which there are four different versions. Go to KWCabs home page and see for yourself. Nicky Moroch is a first call session player in New York and happens to be a very good friend of mine, I suggest you go to his site and see the discography section and his sites page. I fyou don't know who he is, well that tells me a lot. You might want to read about his new favorite pedal there. He heard the Prodrive at my house and had to have one. I truly am sorry that rfranklin has to be attacked and subjected to this bullying.

rfranklin · Post by **rfranklin** » 31 May 2011, 17:20

Greg_g Seriously man? Wow...that was rude. I don't understand..I thought this site was for helping and encouraging other builders
and hobbyists.
I'm not here to sell my product...I was here as a Professional builder, trying to encourage the younger guys, not take flak from anyone.
I didn't deserve that, and all you do by being that way, is push people away from this site.

I'd have been glad to input about electronics, some industry tricks..etc, but I guess I'll just move on down the road

Sorry if I offended anyone...that surely wasn't what was in my heart.

Greg · Post by **Greg** » 31 May 2011, 22:45

rfranklin wrote:Greg_g Seriously man? Wow...that was rude. I don't understand..I thought this site was for helping and encouraging other builders
and hobbyists.
I'm not here to sell my product...I was here as a Professional builder, trying to encourage the younger guys, not take flak from anyone.
I didn't deserve that, and all you do by being that way, is push people away from this site.

I'd have been glad to input about electronics, some industry tricks..etc, but I guess I'll just move on down the road
Sorry if I offended anyone...that surely wasn't what was in my heart.

You posted a link to a clip of your pedal that has a huge heading saying :
Klon Centaur clone (klone) Klon klone demo Nashville Amp Expo 8-22-10[/b]
Further more, the description of the clip says:
"He is using his Orange Krusher Klone as the 1st pedal going into a Franklin Pro Drive, and then into an El Capistan pedal, that is all".
Why would anyone assume or know that that's not the case, and that the Klon clone referred to is not the Pro Drive ?
And.. if it's not the case, then all you would need to do is acknowledge that the heading of the clip (that you linked to !) is misleading and wrong.. not get defensive.

The only one being rude here Rick, is you.
You ackowledge that you haven't visited this site in about 2 years (actually 3 years), and the only time you've ever been here is to discuss your own pedal, tell us how great it is, and post your business web address.
Why don't you explain to us a little about what your circuit is and how it came about.
Then we'll know it's not a Klon or Tubescreamer, right.. and you'll be contributing to what this forum is about rather than just telling us how great your pedal is.
This is not The Gear Page Rick.
We discuss the technical side of pedals here.
You're absolutely welcome if you're here for the right reasons, but in 2 years you never have discussed electronics or industry tricks.
Again, to quote MoreCowBell from above (3 years ago):
"Everybody is welcome here. The ones who stick around are the ones who understand what this site is about.
At it's core, this site is about analyzing circuits..."

So.. if you want to be involved here, you're most welcome.
If we all got off on the wrong foot, then apologies all around and let's start again.
The point of my post was merely to say that this is not a place where people have much tolerance for builders trying to promote their wares without any other input, and on the surface that's how all your posts come across.

JohnnyB.. if I was you I'd be more concerned with being associated with, and doing demos for this guy: http://buildyourowntone.com/ who's the biggest rip-off of others in the pedal industry.
He's using Lovepedal's "ChurchOfTone" label as his username on youtube.. he ripped off his business name from "Build Your Own Clone", and sells an exact clone of Bill Finnegan's Klon pedal (layout taken from a member here).. all whilst bad mouthing everyone else.
Another of this parasite's tricks is to register email addresses to try to entrap other people's customers.. like:
http://www.klonsiberia.com (Finnegan's genuine Klon site is: http://www.klon-siberia.com/)
http://www.buildyourownklone.com
And even: http://www.freestompbox.com

Johnny B · Post by **Johnny B** » 01 Jun 2011, 03:21

Greg, I speak to Bill on a regular basis, he's a great guy. I am waiting for him to build me a few small box Klons. I would have Bill Klon on my board in a second if I could get my hands on on for under three hundred dollars, I refuse to spend over a grand just because it's not being made any more. Plus it's the size of a bread box. There are hundreds of guys out there cloning Klons (90% of them suck) and a thousand other pedals. For instance, I sent an ep-3 circuit to Badger effects, I have all he prototypes. I read on another blog site that Badger was ripping off Clinch, a preamp from a tape machine that isn't even being made anymore. I have no control over a video that I didn't have anything to do with. I did a demo and someone filmed it, I had a friend cut out my part of it so I could send it to KWCabs. I sent Rick today the one from KWCabs today and for the benefit of all I hope he swaps them out so you don't feel cheated. By the way, did you see that one? I don't even have a youtube account. I don't mind Rick using it, I'm glad he does. He makes a great pedal and like I said before, he's a great person.

RnFR · Post by **RnFR** » 01 Jun 2011, 03:32

great. his pedal is awesome. why? what did he do to the design to make it so awesome? is there anything you can share? if not, this just adds up to nothing more than spam- no matter how nicely you put it. once again- the name of this section is circuit analysis.

Johnny B · Post by **Johnny B** » 01 Jun 2011, 03:52

Hi RnFR, No offense, but would you ask Bill Finnagan for a circuit layout? I realize the sites name is freestompboxes. But with some of these past blogs I am begining to wonder. I am finding this whole experience very strange.

Greg · Post by **Greg** » 01 Jun 2011, 04:49

Johnny B wrote:Greg, I speak to Bill on a regular basis, he's a great guy. I am waiting for him to build me a few small box Klons. I would have Bill Klon on my board in a second if I could get my hands on on for under three hundred dollars, I refuse to spend over a grand just because it's not being made any more. Plus it's the size of a bread box. There are hundreds of guys out there cloning Klons (90% of them suck) and a thousand other pedals. For instance, I sent an ep-3 circuit to Badger effects, I have all he prototypes. I read on another blog site that Badger was ripping off Clinch, a preamp from a tape machine that isn't even being made anymore. I have no control over a video that I didn't have anything to do with. I did a demo and someone filmed it, I had a friend cut out my part of it so I could send it to KWCabs. I sent Rick today the one from KWCabs today and for the benefit of all I hope he swaps them out so you don't feel cheated. By the way, did you see that one? I don't even have a youtube account. I don't mind Rick using it, I'm glad he does. He makes a great pedal and like I said before, he's a great person.

I can see that you have no control over the clip JohnnyB, but I hope you realise why I formed the opinion that the ProDrive was a Klon clone based on the labelling of that clip.. especially as it was linked to by Rick.

I also stand by what I said about the 'build your own tone' guy.
If he wants to copy another small builder's circuit, then so be it.. but marketing it as a Klon clone (using Bill's name), the use of other peoples established names and similar sounding web addresses, even the way he used and labelled your clip.. all point to a guy with no ethics.
And this guy has your name all over his website as well, so he's using your reputation to market his clone !

Again, it's your choice.. but if it were me I'd want my name off the clips and the website.
And the way the clip is labelled is potentially very damaging to Rick's business, as the ProDrive is going to get a reputation as a Klon clone... I'm sure anyone who sees it will form the same conclusion that I did.

Johnny B wrote:Hi RnFR, No offense, but would you ask Bill Finnagan for a circuit layout? I realize the sites name is freestompboxes. But with some of these past blogs I am begining to wonder. I am finding this whole experience very strange.

If he came here to tell us how good his pedal is and who uses it, he would certainly be asked for some details.
Circuits are what this forum is all about.

I'm not trying to be smart or rude, it's just that this site is different to the ones where everyone obsesses over the latest effect, and the paint job, and the builder.

RnFR · Post by **RnFR** » 01 Jun 2011, 05:37

Johnny B wrote:Hi RnFR, No offense, but would you ask Bill Finnagan for a circuit layout? I realize the sites name is freestompboxes. But with some of these past blogs I am beginning to wonder. I am finding this whole experience very strange.

Finnegan doesn't post here. if he did, i would definitely ask for some details on the circuit came to be. i don't need a layout. there are already plenty. speaking of...

that POS buildyourowntone goofball- is he still using bajaman's layout? that guy seriously makes my stomach turn. did you see the Klone he built for Nigel Tufnel?

as if Mr. Guest couldn't just go and get a real one. please...