New Fuzz Face Build Problems

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Post by greenie »

Greetings all. First post here on this great forum and I need a little help please! I usually find what I need with the search function (thanks everyone for their help so far!) but I’m struggling with this one…..

I have a fuzz face build that is doing something odd. I’m using a standard npn fuzz face schematic as below (I borrowed the schematic from fuzz central, hope that’s ok?). I have used a tonebender style layout as per the DAM Head Buzz (the layout is not mine and has since been taken off the forum so I'm not sure if it's ok to post it here or not? so won't for the time being). My board (front and back) are below.

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I tested all of the parts before soldering and confirmed they were working/correct values. I also used a breadboard and made sure I had a great working fuzz before soldering – I selected transistors that worked with the standard value parts. I am using ME4003 transistors.

I’m wondering if there is something wrong with the layout and I just can’t see it. The transistors are socketed and work great in the breadboard circuit but not so well in the final set up which has a very gated sound.

The really odd thing I am noticing is that the voltage on Q1s collector drops slightly when I engage the circuit while Q2s collect goes up slightly. I have never experienced it on any other builds and don’t know what is causing it. I wonder if whatever is causing this is the root of my problem? Has anyone come across this before?

I have rebuilt the board replacing every component to ensure that something hadn’t died when being soldered with the exception of the pots which measure correctly. I have also tried a trim pot and fine tuning the bias but it hasn’t helped.

My voltages are:

In bypass
Q1 Q2
E 0 E 0.72
B 0.62 B 1.33
C 1.33 C 2.80

When Pedal engaged
Q1 Q2
E 0 E 0.72
B 0.62 B 1.24
C 1.24 C 3.05

Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!

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Post by grrrunge »

Please post the layout too ;) No-one here's gonna be angry with you for doing that...
First thing to do is check for solder bridges with the continuity setting on your multimeter.
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Post by greenie »

Ok. Here is the layout. It was originally by member sinner so credit and thanks to him. If its not ok to post it ill take it down. I've not included the off board wiring, I don't have on the computer here but can get it if needed. I've used 8.2k instead of the 6.8 on the layout.


Will double check the tracks tonight and report back....

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Post by induction »

That layout has problems:

Fuzz 3 and Fuzz 2 are reversed. This will screw up your biasing, which might be what is causing your problem.

Volume 1 and Volume 3 are reversed. (I assume that Volume 3 goes to ground on the layout, though I can't see that part.) This will make the Volume pot work backwards.

Edit: Nevermind. It looks like you figured this out already.

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Post by greenie »

Good eyes!
My bad. The layout is labelled wrong but they are connected correct on the build. I'll correct the layout tomorrow.

Checked the continuity and for solder bridges and all is as it should be

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Thanks for suggestions so far :thumbsup

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