J201 stage working only after briefly touching the tranny  [SOLVED]

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Post by Faber »

Hi guys!
Hope you're havenig a nice weekend.

I'm working on a new pedal and I've designed a very simple stage with a J201 in a SOT23 package.
As you can see in the schematic it's pretty straightforward and it sounds very good, when it's working :D
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It worked on the breadboard and I've ordered some PCBs from a factory, made with eagle and tested so I'm pretty sure about the board quality.

The thing is: when I connect everything and plug my guitar or a signal generator I got nothing on the speaker or the oscilloscope. While checking the connections I thouched the tranny and it started working. Disconnected and connected again and it kept working. Disconnected for a while this time and connected again, not working. So I touched the transistor again and magic! It works!

I've resoldered it again, double-checked connection but nothing, it always needed the finger magic to start doing is job. So I tried to look closer while I was touching it and discovered that what my finger was doing was connecting the D and G pin of the J201. So I tried with a piece of wire and yes, finger magic was now wire-magic. The weird thing is that I dont need to keep touching it, just a brief connection of less than a second.

Guys can you explain to me what was happening and why the J201 need that to start working? After that brief connection with the finger or the wire it goes on without any trouble at all.

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Post by dv8r601 »

I had similar issues with a batch of sot23 2n4393 I put on adapter boards. Out of 25, 2 of them did this same exact thing. So I got some solder wick and pulled all the solder off , refluxed it with some old radio shack pine resin type flux and they work fine now. There was a tiny bead of solder on one that shorted the d to the g.
Another idea is the pins going to the board need redoing. What kinda of wire/ pins do you have coming off the board? Bc the issue sounds like a bad connection

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dv8r601 wrote:I had similar issues with a batch of sot23 2n4393 I put on adapter boards. Out of 25, 2 of them did this same exact thing. So I got some solder wick and pulled all the solder off , refluxed it with some old radio shack pine resin type flux and they work fine now. There was a tiny bead of solder on one that shorted the d to the g.
Another idea is the pins going to the board need redoing. What kinda of wire/ pins do you have coming off the board? Bc the issue sounds like a bad connection
Thanks for answering!

I'm using the standard breadboard male-male Dupont wires, but I've soldered them to establish a better connection.
I'll try your method of desoldering/resoldering!

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attach photos of the finished board

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Post by Faber »

I may have realized that I should've added a Resistor from G to Ground.
Something equal or bigger than 1Meg, as a reference voltage if I got it right..

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Faber wrote:I may have realized that I should've added a Resistor from G to Ground.
Something equal or bigger than 1Meg, as a reference voltage if I got it right..
Yes, move the resistor to the other side of the input cap (onto the gate) rather than on the input, the FET isn't getting biased properly.
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