Amazonbasics - Overdrive

[modman]

[CheapPedalCollector]

Knew it. Haha.

[Frank_NH]

I guess Amazon is following in the footsteps of Sears in the 1960s, who sold lots of Kay and Harmony guitars to the masses.

[x-tn]

Left side of the pedalboard
(photo from Amazon page)

[Ben N]

This dude is shocked that the thing is made by NUX (or some other well known Chinese manufacturer)? Seriously?

[deltafred]

Left side of the pedalboard
(photo from Amazon page)

But it makes a nice tidy promo photo.

[Shango]

Left side of the pedalboard
(photo from Amazon page)

No see it'll work, cause there's a looper pedal on the left. That reverses the in/out jacks for the rest of the board.

[x-tn]

Left side of the pedalboard
(photo from Amazon page)

No see it'll work, cause there's a looper pedal on the left. That reverses the in/out jacks for the rest of the board.

[bmxguitarsbmx]

Works best if you hook the output of your amplifier back through your effects. For that studio processed sound.

[Ben N]

Maybe put together by this nice lady:

[The G]

Dudes! You're killing me!

[snyder80]

... well and this one could be their take on the a "Gamechanger Plasma Pedal"-clone...

[Frank_NH]

To me, it makes perfect sense that with sufficiently cheap OEM parts and modern SMD production methods, overseas production facilities can make an inexpensive pedal that sounds "close enough" to the higher cost versions. I suppose Ibanez, Boss, etc. could do the same thing (develop a line of ultra cheap pedals), but then it's like Epiphone versus Gibson. Sure the Epiphone Les Paul can sound and play like a $3000 Gibson, but ... it's not a Gibson. So there will always be a market for more expensive boutique brands, though their market share will shrink with time.

Of course, if a pedal costs $25, then there really is no resale market if you decide to get rid of it. So I suspect that when these units start to fail due to flimsy construction and cheap parts, they will end up in local landfills.

Finally, it probably won't be long before someone comes up with a "tube screamer on a chip", where all but the power components are on a single IC. Then your PCB design would be really simple and you could produce cheap pedals by the bucket loads!

[CheapPedalCollector]

Oh just "relic" stuff and people will pay a premium for it, especially on reverb where everyone thinks their gear is worth the same as it was when they bought it or more.

[nooneknows]

This dude is shocked that the thing is made by NUX (or some other well known Chinese manufacturer)? Seriously?

I'm sick tired of all the "Wows!!" and "unbelievable!" in every YT video around for clickbaiting, everytime, it's unbearable annoying, I just skip off

[JiM]

I suppose Ibanez, Boss, etc. could do the same thing (develop a line of ultra cheap pedals),

They did. Remember the Ibanez Soundtanks ?

With modern production techniques, and the high production volumes required for it, producing simple electronic gizmos such as stompboxes is cheap.
The thing is, contrary to a lovingly hand-finished piece of wood, there is not much difference between the cheap stuff and the expensive stuff.
Many expensive stuff is actually built the cheap way ...

someone comes up with a "tube screamer on a chip",

Well, at its core a tube screamer is actually using just one chip, a dual opamp, and a few passive components around it.
(OK, there are also two transistor buffers, and a discrete flip-flop for bypass, but many boutique copies omit those).

[Frank_NH]

I suppose Ibanez, Boss, etc. could do the same thing (develop a line of ultra cheap pedals),

They did. Remember the Ibanez Soundtanks ?

With modern production techniques, and the high production volumes required for it, producing simple electronic gizmos such as stompboxes is cheap.
The thing is, contrary to a lovingly hand-finished piece of wood, there is not much difference between the cheap stuff and the expensive stuff.
Many expensive stuff is actually built the cheap way ...

someone comes up with a "tube screamer on a chip",

Well, at its core a tube screamer is actually using just one chip, a dual opamp, and a few passive components around it.
(OK, there are also two transistor buffers, and a discrete flip-flop for bypass, but many boutique copies omit those).

I suppose that the SMD-based PCBs are close to a "tube screamer on a chip", given the tiny feature sizes of the discrete components (transistors, diodes, resistors, capacitors). It probably won't be long until they devise a process for "3-D printing" an entire PCB complete with all components and connections.

https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/news/e ... -circuits/

[JiM]

PCB already means "printed circuit board" ...

If you think of so-called "hybrid" technology, where laser-trimmed resistors are deposited on a ceramic substrate, it's already in use in some pedals, such as those from Tech21.

[nooneknows]

I'd like to say that standard size components are better than smd but, really, I can't, smd isn't worse it's just a different kind of engineering, more so, in most cases the S/N ratio is even better: the mechanization of the process permits a reduction not only of time in production but in possible flaws also, making more affordable and reliable units.
I know, we are romantically chained to the old school, which permits us to mod our stuff, but from a technical point of view this is just an improvement, it's more on the circuit design than its construction

[Ben N]

Romance has got nothing to do with it. Weakening eyes and shaky hands--there's your culprit, or at least mine.