Mike & Vlad: the Russian tube story
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NAMM 2006 interview with Mike on buying the Russian factory in 1998 and the attempt by another company to take over the building. He then calls in the Putin administration and "they take care of business..." - hence production went smoothly for 15 years... Then we had the Russian counter sanctions, but now Mike called Vlad and got it sorted out?
It is incredible to hear him reiterate the same anti-fascist bullshit as we hear from Putin. Mike identifies himself and the workers with the Soviet soldiers defending Stalingrad against the Nazis. Even though the company trying to push them out are Russians too. Maybe they don't have the greatest of business tactics, but what did they do, really? How were they able to turn off electricity in factory they didn't own?
I haven't looked up what this company is that bought of the rest of the old Reflektor plant. It's located in Yershovsky, Seratov. They clearly have less political leverage that Mike...
Rock and Roll!
It is incredible to hear him reiterate the same anti-fascist bullshit as we hear from Putin. Mike identifies himself and the workers with the Soviet soldiers defending Stalingrad against the Nazis. Even though the company trying to push them out are Russians too. Maybe they don't have the greatest of business tactics, but what did they do, really? How were they able to turn off electricity in factory they didn't own?
I haven't looked up what this company is that bought of the rest of the old Reflektor plant. It's located in Yershovsky, Seratov. They clearly have less political leverage that Mike...
Rock and Roll!
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I never use his Russian tubes - inconsistent emission qualities in most of the 12AX7s I have tested - I have measured many brand new Russian tubes that have less than 10% emission - sadly the JJ Slovakian tubes are a little inconsistent too, BUT, no where near as bad as the Russian tubes - the Shuguang 12AX7B is one of the most consistent tubes made these days, but sadly the factory had a fire (so I am led to believe) and production is not expected to ramp up until a couple of months time. The outlook for tubes does not look good in the present circumstances
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- CheapPedalCollector
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Considering the environmental problem with tube production it's likely the 2030 accord will ban the production and import of tubes completely.
- bmxguitarsbmx
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I've heard this before. Would you have any specific information about this (links etc)? One side of my family are all chemists working in industry. I would like to present them something to get their take on the future of vacuum tubes.CheapPedalCollector wrote: ↑18 Mar 2022, 15:20 Considering the environmental problem with tube production it's likely the 2030 accord will ban the production and import of tubes completely.
- bmxguitarsbmx
- Cap Cooler
I saw this on another forum. Apparently Western Electric still manufactures the 300B triode in the United States and are considering expanding the lineup.
https://www.westernelectric.com/expand
https://www.westernelectric.com/expand
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I can’t imagine that producing tubes is any more environmentally harmful than, say, electric car or cell phone production. In any case, I can see some savy entrepreneurs taking up the challenge of producing tubes with modern manufacturing methods (e.g. 3D printed parts).CheapPedalCollector wrote: ↑18 Mar 2022, 15:20 Considering the environmental problem with tube production it's likely the 2030 accord will ban the production and import of tubes completely.
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Newsletter from Tube Amp Doctor, the German company:
CURRENT SITUATION REGARDING THE SUPPLY OF AMPLIFIER TUBES
(As of 16 March 2022) - GERMAN BELOW
Without a doubt, the current situation on the tube market can be classified as dramatic. In any case, for years, there have been only three noteworthy manufacturers of audio amplifier tubes such as 12AX7 / ECC83, EL84, EL34 and 6L6GC.
In August 2019, the largest manufacturer Shuguang closed its factory in order to move to a larger and more modern location. Unfortunately, the new production facility has not been granted permission for two years now. In the meantime, leading employees have left or have been compensated. This probably means the end of the Shuguang Electron Tube Factory.
The second major manufacturer in Russia, known mainly for the Sovtek, Electro Harmonix, Tung-Sol and Gold-Lion brands, can no longer export tubes since the Russian sanctions came into force.
This leaves only JJ as the smallest of the three big manufacturers. And their delivery time was already up to 18-20 months, even before the Russian sanctions.
REDBASE®
As we anticipated the development with Shuguang at a very early stage, we had already intensified a new cooperation with a small manufacturer in China in 2020. We knew that they had acquired the production facilities of another tube manufacturing plant that had been closed in the early 2000s, but had not yet used them for the types of tubes we required so urgently after Shuguang ceased production.
Working closely together, we facilitated a massive expansion and modernisation of the production facilities and started with the TAD 6L6GCM-STR REDBASE in spring 2021. This was followed by the TAD 6L6WGC-STR, the TAD EL34-STR, the TAD 12AU7A / ECC82 and the TAD GZ34-STR.
Currently, we are expecting the start of volume production of the new TAD ECC83WA, 7025WA, 12AX7A/7025, 12BH7A-STR and KT88-STR right now, followed by more models such as the 6V6GT-STR, 6550A-STR, 12AT7 / ECC81 and EL84-STR REDBASE series in the near future.
All REDBASE® tubes are individually tested, listened to and, if necessary, matched at TAD in Germany, thus replacing the obsolete TAD-STR and TAD-BLACKPLATE tube models.
The TAD REDBASE® series is manufactured independently of the three previous manufacturers and will significantly ease the supply situation for the mentioned tube types within the next few months.
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