Mki Tonebender gating question

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Post by Manicstrat2112 »

Does anyone happen to know what part of the circuit effects the gating? I have been experimenting for weeks and getting a wide range of results, but I can't seem to figure out what components are the ones effecting the amount of gating. I know it can be done because there are mki pedals with a gate control. Just when I think I've pegged it, its wrong and doesn't work. I can usually figure these things out, but this is getting frustrating. Any help would be appreciated.
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You could try varying the Q2 collector resistor (2.2k or 3.3k in most versions, between the -9V supply and Q2). Maybe replace it with a 470R to set a minimum value, in series with a 5k or 10k pot wired as a variable resistor. I've seen this called a "gate" control on fuzzes.
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what voltage do you recommend on Q2 collector?
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I've built a few TB Mk1 but am far from an expert on them. However here are some recommendations I cribbed from somewhere that I don't recall, they've worked for me.
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