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Jan Drexler, Vibrato for musicians, in: Amaterske Radio, April 1980 🇨🇿

Posted: 26 Oct 2022, 17:24
by modman
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Schematic Close-Up:
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Rough Google translation from Czech:

VIBRATO for musicians
Phase vibrato
Jan Drexler

The phase vibrato is used to periodically change
the phase angle between the input and
output voltages of the transistor amplification
stage. The transistor in the basic layout
of the vibrato (Fig. 1a) works simultaneously as
an inverting non-inverting element with greens Uk (Fig. 1b). This changes the phase angle
approximately 1 (-1) Collector voltages
and emitter voltages are valid in opposite
phase, see aapel vector diagram (Fig. 1b) Floraci
kto a simple, frequency-dependent series
day RC's with a variable resistor R and
a capacitor C. When turning the white
potentiometer R, the terminal point and values. of the output
voltage vector moves along the Thalet
circle, built over the Le sviraj vectors (as is known
from the connection of the sine circuit
RC) of the right thel form (Fig. 1b). The
phase shift between the input and output voltages
is determined by the relation
arccos [1-2R/R+ x)].
where 055 180 X (2xRIC). If, for
example, in is RC-1, then substituting into
(1) results in a phase one private a/2, 1, 90
Giant. 1. The basis of organization
(a) its vector diagram (b)
The practical connection of the phase vibrato
in Fig. 2 contains two transistor stages
according to Fig. 1a and is additionally bold C of
the uncorrected and adjusted signal The
function of variable resistance innovations data
kd pin photoresistors R, R. located in
a common position and periodically illuminated by
the signal generator frequency, see Fig. 3.
Transistors can be used instead of photoresistors,
especially FET MOSFET types, which are, of
course, significantly more expensive, not
shown. Code 1 at 10 te separately powered
generator u lee can be changed by setting the
double potentiometer P. The modulation moub is
determined by the position of the white P. With
the trimmer R, we choose the point of the
terminal pair of the transistor T., Tv Darting tone
connection so that the wit of the light bulb
changes evenly and symmetrically around the middle
The described phase vibrio is especially
suitable as an additional output voltage
electrode device, while the vectors of Unique dielectronic musical instruments 4 The musical
instrument should produce much higher
harmonic kminoerds. Then, with the appropriate
setting of potentiometers P. and P, the texture
vibe creates the impression of simultaneous
frequency and amplitude modulation of the sound,
reminiscent only to a certain extent of the
Leslie effect. Privyubiti audio vibrita in ordinary
musical compositions for the purpose of
additional editing, however, cannot be expected to
restore the new resulting sound combination.
(1)
R
Giant. 2. Circuit diagram of the phase vibro
Giant. 3. Circuit diagram of the 10 M frequency generator
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Re: Jan Drexler, Vibrato for musicians, in: Amaterske Radio, April 1980 🇨🇿

Posted: 31 Oct 2022, 12:58
by Reachahighernoon
Is it me or does this look like basically a 2 stage uni vibe?

Re: Jan Drexler, Vibrato for musicians, in: Amaterske Radio, April 1980 🇨🇿

Posted: 31 Oct 2022, 19:20
by cspar
Reachahighernoon wrote: 31 Oct 2022, 12:58 Is it me or does this look like basically a 2 stage uni vibe?
There's a similarity for sure but that's optical phasing with transistors...

Here's the lfo close up.
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I don't have much experience with Eastern Block schematics.

I am I correct in thinking that a M22 resistor is 220k and a 20M capacitor is 20uf?

Also what is the value of P5. It says M1/N, is that a100k?

Re: Jan Drexler, Vibrato for musicians, in: Amaterske Radio, April 1980 🇨🇿

Posted: 31 Oct 2022, 20:08
by karul
https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potenciometr
linear potentiometers (indicated by the letter B, formerly N)
logarithmic potentiometers (marked with the letter A, formerly G).
exponential (marked with the letter C, formerly E)
M1/N = 100k lin = B100k

Re: Jan Drexler, Vibrato for musicians, in: Amaterske Radio, April 1980 🇨🇿

Posted: 07 Jan 2023, 18:34
by BMS1971
Quick question what value is G2 for a capacitor?
Benoit

Re: Jan Drexler, Vibrato for musicians, in: Amaterske Radio, April 1980 🇨🇿

Posted: 07 Jan 2023, 21:14
by karul
BMS1971 wrote: 07 Jan 2023, 18:34 Quick question what value is G2 for a capacitor?
Benoit
I hope I'm right about this. If 2M2 is 2.2uF, then M1 is 0.1uF. The G2 is not the schematic number, it is its value. M is for MEGA, G is for GIGA. G2 should be 200uF.

Re: Jan Drexler, Vibrato for musicians, in: Amaterske Radio, April 1980 🇨🇿

Posted: 07 Jan 2023, 21:25
by karul
one is translation from czech forum and the other from some shop

Re: Jan Drexler, Vibrato for musicians, in: Amaterske Radio, April 1980 🇨🇿

Posted: 08 Jan 2023, 18:04
by BMS1971
Thanks makes sens if 2G2 is 2200 UF G2 is 200UF
Benoit

Re: Jan Drexler, Vibrato for musicians, in: Amaterske Radio, April 1980 🇨🇿

Posted: 04 Jul 2023, 17:53
by BMS1971
strange, I made the LFO part to try it, but not working at all
here is my schematic
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10 ... 9666439538
But not working. Did I messed something? I posted a link to the image on FB, cannot manage to have it posted here
Ben

Re: Jan Drexler, Vibrato for musicians, in: Amaterske Radio, April 1980 🇨🇿

Posted: 04 Jul 2023, 18:23
by karul
BMS1971 wrote: 04 Jul 2023, 17:53 strange, I made the LFO part to try it, but not working at all
here is my schematic
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10 ... 9666439538
But not working. Did I messed something? I posted a link to the image on FB, cannot manage to have it posted here
Ben
C1 should be connected to C5, not to gnd. T1's emiter to gnd, It's not clear what have you done with dual gang pot.

Re: Jan Drexler, Vibrato for musicians, in: Amaterske Radio, April 1980 🇨🇿

Posted: 04 Jul 2023, 18:55
by BMS1971
I use an external connection for dual pot to prevent overcrowding PCB. Thanks, yes I didn't even noticed my error on C5, silly me... I corrected the schematic on the FB post and added the PCB image to give you an idea how I wire a dual pot with only 2 lugs and a ground
Benoit