Motter wrote: ↑11 Apr 2023, 17:17
... with a cool old-school "hand-drawn" PCB ...
While I like the look of those PCB traces, they are gonna lift off like buggery.
Narrowing to a point? WTF?
A bit of stress from the pots or footswitch and those lovely traces will only be good for sticking on your wall.
I'm sure they'll offer to fix it for you for a fee !
R.I.P. Burke Shelley, from one of my favourite (and much underrated) bands - Budgie
Their songs have been covered by Van Halen, Iron Maiden, Soundgarden, Metallica and more.
If you don't know how HEAVY this band was in the 70s, check Breadfan out.
jalmonsalmon wrote: ↑14 Apr 2023, 14:28
Funny thing, I put something in the YouTube post about the circuit and it was immediately deleted
LOL
I mean like within 2 minutes!
That’s telling. Sounds like admitting that he borrowed from previous work is embarrassing for JHS, or at least they feel that way.
Motter wrote: ↑11 Apr 2023, 17:17
... with a cool old-school "hand-drawn" PCB ...
While I like the look of those PCB traces, they are gonna lift off like buggery.
Narrowing to a point? WTF?
A bit of stress from the pots or footswitch and those lovely traces will only be good for sticking on your wall.
I'm sure they'll offer to fix it for you for a fee !
I suspect this board was manufactured as a one sided board without a solder mask. It should be as sturdy as standard boards. I can’t tell if the holes are plated.
No solder mask is an option. I’ve ordered boards with this option from PCBWay.com. They look very similar. The boards I got were two sided with played holes. They worked well and were no less reliable than the same boards with a solder mask. Though the solder mask is better for assembly.
I get the feeling he lied to EHX about the origin of the circuit, which could get him into trouble. It's business though, and all is fair in love and war.
I don't think he really spent much time at all on the circuit, maybe a couple of hours. I feel like designing something myself and posting it up here... I think I shall.
guysmiley wrote: ↑13 Apr 2023, 12:57
I'm just bummed. The guy loves doing videos on the history of all these obscure people and companies, but can't champion or tell the story of the circuit and the guy behind it. Instead says it's "original".
My point exactly. I'm not disappointed in JHS the company, who took non-patented, non-copyrighted ideas and turned them into a product, just like every other pedal company.
I'm disappointed in Josh Scott the youtube personality, the self-styled "pedal historian"; who made a feature-length documentary on the history of the Proco Rat and the people who built it; who wrote and produced a freaking musical about the history of the pedal industry; who releases video after video about obscure pedals and the people who invented them. Sure, most guitar players won't care who Hemmo or Escobedo are, but most guitar players don't care who Woodcutter is or why Mike Matthews decide to paint big muffs green for a few years. He's got no issue making lengthy videos about that stuff.
*That* Josh knows these guys deserve recognition and chose to ignore it. Shame on him.
guysmiley wrote: ↑13 Apr 2023, 12:57
I'm just bummed. The guy loves doing videos on the history of all these obscure people and companies, but can't champion or tell the story of the circuit and the guy behind it. Instead says it's "original".
My point exactly. I'm not disappointed in JHS the company, who took non-patented, non-copyrighted ideas and turned them into a product, just like every other pedal company.
I'm disappointed in Josh Scott the youtube personality, the self-styled "pedal historian"; who made a feature-length documentary on the history of the Proco Rat and the people who built it; who wrote and produced a freaking musical about the history of the pedal industry; who releases video after video about obscure pedals and the people who invented them. Sure, most guitar players won't care who Hemmo or Escobedo are, but most guitar players don't care who Woodcutter is or why Mike Matthews decide to paint big muffs green for a few years. He's got no issue making lengthy videos about that stuff.
*That* Josh knows these guys deserve recognition and chose to ignore it. Shame on him.
I really want to give people the benefit of the doubt but you make a really strong argument here.
soggybag wrote: ↑15 Apr 2023, 02:14
I really want to give people the benefit of the doubt but you make a really strong argument here.
Well, that's not a bad thing to give people the benefit of the doubt. The internet has too many people who'll jump to conclusions and pick up pitchforks. I'm not trying to stir up a hate mob against JHS, I guess I just feel the need to explain why this one bothers me a little more than it might otherwise.
jalmonsalmon wrote: ↑14 Apr 2023, 14:28
Funny thing, I put something in the YouTube post about the circuit and it was immediately deleted
LOL
I mean like within 2 minutes!
did it contain a link? if yes it’s a normal process. happened to me a few times
jalmonsalmon wrote: ↑14 Apr 2023, 14:28
Funny thing, I put something in the YouTube post about the circuit and it was immediately deleted
LOL
I mean like within 2 minutes!
There was also an Instagram post where someone asked if he was going to shout out or give credit to the original designers. That entire post is now gone as well.
jalmonsalmon wrote: ↑14 Apr 2023, 14:28
Funny thing, I put something in the YouTube post about the circuit and it was immediately deleted
LOL
I mean like within 2 minutes!
did it contain a link? if yes it’s a normal process. happened to me a few times
No link!
I just mentioned what the circuit is. I guess Josh did not want to reveal on the YouTube video's comments the true origin of "the original circuit design by Josh"
CheapPedalCollector wrote: ↑15 Apr 2023, 00:05
I get the feeling he lied to EHX about the origin of the circuit...
I'm thinking this too. I don't see any reason why he'd be so defensive about it otherwise. He's gotten enough goodwill with the YouTube community that he can fess up and do an apology video and everyone would say "what a guy!" and move on. Don't think there will be an apology video for this one...
Of course, I'm sure he's reading this thread, so he's gonna definitely do an apology video now just to make me eat shit.
"Analog electronics in music is dead. Analog effects pedal design is a dead art." - Fran
I don't get it, the guy has a successful business, he doesn't need to steal shit. I'm sure he's hired actual engineers to work at his company. Seems pretty weird to me tbh.
Hell I'm not even close to being an engineer and I could be more creative than that.
I’m not surprised that this based on someone else’s design. He got his company name on a Boss pedal with a circuit that is basically just a rip off of the MI Audio Crunchbox. He got really pissed and defensive on another forum when I pointed that out. As far as I’m concerned he’s the biggest villain in the history of the pedal industry ever.
The main problem with this argument is that while you may not have to credit someone if you provide instructions on how to make a grilled cheese sandwich, likewise you would not claim that the grill cheese sandwich was your "original" recipe.
Here is the proper way to provide credit for a circuit idea (in this case the bazz fuss), courtesy of our friends at Runoffgroove:
And here is another example of proper attribution, this time by Benson Amps. Note how they give credit to Jack Orman for the pickup simulator idea. And by the way, their germanium fuzz is really novel and what I would consider an "original" design...
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as they say in skateboarding.