Stupidly rare effects possibly for sale

[Rorer714]

I need to buy some music gear. And it's not cheap. Especially the good stuff. So I might be persuaded to sell off some pedals. Right now I am only showing the rarest of the rare, since they bring the most money (duh). I will be honest with you - I don't really want to sell any of them. So if I do they will not be cheap. On the other hand I would only expect prices in the range of what I have seen similar pedals sell for. I am not a gouger or a dealer. So, I won't give them away but I won't ask for your firstborn. The best way to get the party started is to post a small list here and see what happens. I can post pictures later but you can be safe in assuming that conditions are generally very good to mint. I don't collect junk. Here we go!

Jordan Distortion (trumpet)
Audiomatrix Mini-Boogee
Audiomatrix Mini-Matrix
Coron Jet Flanger
Coron Spectrum DC-846
Monacor MA-10
DOD Electronic Phasor
Stanton-Vestax DDG-1
Electro-Harmonix Small Clone Mini-Chorus
Kent Black Gold Phaser
Growler Bearpaw #1 of 1
Replica Industries Fuzzrite

[DiscoFreq]

Can you post or send me pictures of these?

Audiomatrix Mini-Boogee
Audiomatrix Mini-Matrix
Jordan Distortion (trumpet) => a distortion for horns? Not this one: http://filters.muziq.be/model/jordan/j700 ?
Replica Industries Fuzzrite


I'm interested in these, but it depends on the price:

Jordan Distortion (trumpet)
Audiomatrix Mini-Boogee
Audiomatrix Mini-Matrix
Coron Spectrum DC-846
Monacor MA-10 (even though I already have 4 or 5 of these )
Replica Industries Fuzzrite

[Dirk_Hendrik]

Since I have three of em and know at least 3 people personally who have one I cannot really consider a Coron Jet Flanger & Filter Matrix "rare".

[salocin]

+1 on pics of the fuzzrite

[DiscoFreq]

Since I have three of em and know at least 3 people personally who have one I cannot really consider a Coron Jet Flanger & Filter Matrix "rare".

You're right, I have at least 2 of them (one Coron, one Sanox), I don't understand those prices on eBay (usually BIN, nobody buys them at those prices )

[Dirk_Hendrik]

Problem with vintage hype. It's "older" so people tend to count themselves rich already. Other than that they do searches on the net and see those asking prices you're referring to and consider them "market vale.

Reminds me of the bloke last week advertizing an ibbie fl5 and mailing that my bid was too low and he wanted at least 60 euro's for the thing. At my argumented "ended ebay listigs" answer that 17.83 was an average price (and below my bid) he got pissed.

[DiscoFreq]

Yes, a lot of sellers choose their price based on the highest asking price they saw, but they forget to look if that item was actually sold for that price (and even if it does it doesn't mean there are more idiots willing to pay that price ).

I have no real "have to have" list of pedals, I'm patient and buy interesting pedals for interesting prices, even those expensive pedals can be bought cheap sometimes

[RnFR]

whats up with the jordan disto? i don't think we have a schem for that one on here. if not, some gut pics would be great.

[PurplePeopleEater]

Hi, I have some rare pedals for sale. I don't want to tell you the prices because I'm hoping that you'll offer me something higher than what I actually want. I also won't post pictures, because I "may or may not" actually have the pedals. Then I'll disappear for a few days after making the post. I'll come back and see if you guys have offered me more than I want in a week or so.


I'm not saying this is what the OP is doing, but it sure seems that way. Kind of a crappy way to do business if you ask me. The anonymity of the internet allows douchebags (not necessarily this guy, but people with similar posting style) to rip off hardworking, hopeful musicians. Posts like these bug the living shit out of me. Either you want to sell the items or you don't - but don't play this fucking guessing game on price.

Oh yeah - I almost forgot to add "YMMV"

[Dirk_Hendrik]

Posts like these bug the living shit out of me. Either you want to sell the items or you don't - but don't play this fucking guessing game on price.

Fully agreed, do your homework, make up your asking price and live with it. Start too high and give yourself the ability to lower a little fo all I care.

There's a step far worse though,
The situation where the seller acts the middle man between 2 or more bidders and tries to get higher bids by mailing around the "highest bid", fishing for a higher one. I usually step out straight away.

[DiscoFreq]

There's a step far worse though,
The situation where the seller acts the middle man between 2 or more bidders and tries to get higher bids by mailing around the "highest bid", fishing for a higher one. I usually step out straight away.

That's why I hate Marktplaats.nl...

* sellers mailing to say they have a bid of x Euro by mail/phone
* no "end date": sometimes they sell a great pedal for peanuts to the first one to call/mail/pick it up
* the ad and bids often stays on the site while it's already sold (you'll never know)
* sometimes you have to wait weeks before you hear from them, if you ever do (sometimes they think the bid is too low but never say so)
* if you're not the highest bidder they often contact you because "the highest bidder doesn't respond" or "is not interested anymore": did he exist?
* there's no feedback, so the number of broken effects I received from Marktplaats is rather high compared to eBay and there's not much you can do about it. At the moment I'm waiting a few weeks for a drum synth I bought, seller didn't answer my mail about it yet (I mailed 2 days ago)...
...

I really don't understand why they still use that site instead of eBay.nl or why eBay (who bought marktplaats a few years ago) didn't merge it into eBay.nl like they did years ago with some Belgian auction sites (my eBay account was actually an account on one of those).


But I do find interesting stuff there sometimes...

[Dirk_Hendrik]

I really don't understand why they still use that site instead of eBay.nl

Hollandse kneuterigheid


I fully agree with you

[PurplePeopleEater]

And a week later, no response from the OP.

[Dirk_Hendrik]

Perhaps he's pissed that we don't consider his/her rare valuable pedals rare and valueable??

[DiscoFreq]

Some really are, but I want to see pictures

[Rorer714]

Since I have three of em and know at least 3 people personally who have one I cannot really consider a Coron Jet Flanger & Filter Matrix "rare".

Fair enough. I should have mentioned that it is mint and has dual true bypass switches professionally installed. I am not one of those "everything must be true bypass" guys, nor do I make a habit of modifying vintage pedals, but this particular pedal is a real tone sucker and I have used it in my signal chain. Hence the true bypass - in this case it was a HUGE improvement. As we know, many of the old pedals were not made or designed all that well and don't work so great in modern recording situations. The Jet Flanger was actually made pretty well but the true bypass switching made it much better and now it is as quiet as a mouse and has absolutely no effect on the signal whether engaged or bypassed.

[DiscoFreq]

Can you post some pictures? I've been waiting for 2.5 weeks now...

[Rorer714]

Problem with vintage hype. It's "older" so people tend to count themselves rich already.

I don't know if this is directed at me, but if so it is hilarious! Because I am so far from wealthy that it's almost a pun. In fact I am 44 and live with my parents! Although that's not as pathetic as it sounds. I was seriously injured in a bad motorcycle accident few years ago. I slammed into a Grand Prix at 50 mph, I managed to stay on the bike somehow after hitting it, but then ran into a 12" concrete median curb that was on about a 60 degree angle which made a very nice ramp with which to launch myself through a tree and into the opposite lanes of traffic where I finally left the bike to fly, skid, and then roll to a stop about 100 feet from where the bike lay. The witnesses thought for sure that I was dead. I sure wish that I could have witnessed it! It had to look positively insane! The driver of the car was charged with everything. I am a thirty year rider and I don't run into cars for no reason. I ended up with about $25,000, with which I had to pay medical bills of about $10,000 and the rest was wasted on who knows what, not even pedals because I could not play at the time and did not really think about music gear. Anyway, I came the folk's house to recuperate, and now that I am healed I wish to move out. Hence the possible sale of rare pedals. That, and for some studio gear that I'd like to have. SO -I am not wealthy; I am not a "serious collector"; I play my effects; I'd like to collect vintage instruments and amps etc. but I can't afford to so it's mostly effects except for when I get lucky; I do not buy gear as an investment; I rarely if ever pay "serious collector prices" for anything; I am not a yuppie; I am not a speculator; I am not a dealer; I spend WAY too much money on pedals when compared with what I spend on anything else, my finances, and other things that I need more than more pedals (which is just about everything else); and I have FTW tattooed on the knuckles of BOTH hands.

[Rorer714]

Can you post some pictures? I've been waiting for 2.5 weeks now...

OK I will shortly ok? I have not been around! I can't reply/post if I'm not here! But I know that people want to see these things and I promise to get pics up within the next few days.

[Rorer714]

I'm not saying this is what the OP is doing, but it sure seems that way. Kind of a crappy way to do business if you ask me. The anonymity of the internet allows douchebags (not necessarily this guy, but people with similar posting style) to rip off hardworking, hopeful musicians. Posts like these bug the living shit out of me. Either you want to sell the items or you don't - but don't play this fucking guessing game on price.

This one takes the cake. I have to laugh at people who work themselves up and get angry at the smallest things. As if the world was so perfect that some guy who may or may not want to sell something is cause for vitriole. Of course I noticed the half-baked attempts to possibly let me (or himself) off the hook - but if not me, then who is he talking about? It is my thread that he replied to. If this subject bothered him that much, and he wanted to talk about other douchebags, then he would have started a new thread. If you are going to call me names or accuse me I'd much rather be called them and accused directly, instead of in a chickensh!t veiled way, so I don't have to spend my days wondering hmmm...did he mean me or NOT? (not that I really do that, or even have to guess at the answer). Now - this is not a business for me and I am not doing business. If it was a business then I would have a name and a store and a website to sell things and so on. The reason for the post was that I had decided that I might be willing to sell some pedals, because I needed to raise some cash, if the right offer came around. So what? I needed to see a dollar figure to decide if I would be able to part with the things that make me happier than almost anything else except for my dog. Run it up the flagpole and see what sort of salute I'd get (knowing that I might get one of the middle fingered variety; thanks for reinforcing my belief that I have the ability to predict what people will do in a given situation). If I wanted to simply put them out there for the greatest number of people possible to see them, in order to get the most money possible, well there is a four letter word for that and we all know what it is. But I did not do that. I put them here - and ONLY here - for a few select people to see because I was grateful that a couple of people here took the time to give me a detailed and specific answer to a troubleshooting question that I had when nobody on any other board did that (this is no way a slam to any other boards - I don't think that the right people read my question. But one of them did refer me to this board, where I did get the replies that I needed, so in that way they did help me get the answer). But I was grateful to this board, and I also knew that it was much more specialized and focused on stompboxes than the others, and I knew that the membership was much smaller but comprised of more knowledgeable stompbox people. So in light of these things I posted this thread. I didn't expect a sort of Spanish Inquisition, but then again, who does?

Now - as far as the hardworking, hopeful musicians that the douchebags are ripping off, a "hardworking hopeful musician" is something that I would have to work up to. I aspire to be a hardworking hopeful musician. I am at least one step below a HWHM. An HM at best. Because, although I have been called many things (douchebag is almost a term of affection to me), hardworking has never been one of them. You will never hear my name and the term "hardworking" in the same sentence. Probably not even on the same day, or in the same place. Unless the word "not" preceded it. And ripping people off, douchebags or not? Um, I don't think so. First of all it is not in my DNA. I don't care much about money for money's sake. I'd rather have a happy buyer than an extra fifty bucks or whatever. And I have never sold anything to anybody for more than they wanted to pay. When I auction things I usually start at 99 cents and with no reserve. People pay what they want to pay. And when I sell/trade privately I am generous with my end, and I don't care if I am technically being "ripped off" as long as I am happy with what I am receiving. If any of this ever became "serious" for me then I would know that it is time to stop. But it won't, because I am not that way. And for the other reason that I have lived a pretty crazy life where excess was never enough. Outlaw biker at one time, but I had to add several other crazy things to my resume as if that was not enough. With the result being that I have had a LOT of very REAL near death experiences. I even died once. They revived me. These things will alter your perspective if you have enough of them; probably even just one of them for most people, but I am hard headed so it took me a while. I did learn a few things along the way. These days my life is about as exciting as that of an old maid auntie, but I am grateful that I am here at all. And when you feel that way, trying to get a few extra dollars at someone else's expense is not part of the plan. It seems so, well, stupid. And a waste of time and energy. Oddly enough the motorcycle accident was the LEAST scary - I hardly even count it as being near death. I never felt like I was going to check out that day, even as I knew that hitting the car was an inevitable part of my immediate future that I could do nothing about. I was just hoping that it wouldn't hurt too bad (it did) and that my bike wouldn't be totalled (it was). The point of it all is that is that after someone has been through enough of these things it gives them a whole different perspective on the world. It's not really a "live for today, for tomorrow may never come" thing, although there is some of that in it. For me it's mostly a change in the way that I view and act toward the world and its residents. And it is also like I am halfway in the next world, whatever it is. I feel like I am half gone from here already. Things like a few bucks here and there are unimportant. Money is only important to me as far as my need to keep a roof over my head and food in my stomach. After that everything else is a luxury that I truly appreciate. When I look at my pedal collection I feel truly blessed. There are billions of people in this world who cannot count on the roof and the food - actually I cannot count on them to be there forever either, because I cannot see the future - but I can reasonably expect it to be where many cannot. So the thought of ripping off anybody for any reason in order to get a few dollars that I can survive just fine without - it's ludicrous. I would rather give someone something for free than to take food from their plate so that I could have more money. I cannot explain it any more than that. Either you get it or you don't.

As far as this thread, it clearly said "possibly for sale" in the title. If this person did not want to see a thread posted by someone who may or may not want to sell something then he had no reason to read it. He was clearly forewarned. No punches were pulled, no dirty tricks played. It did not say "rare effects for sale" and then, when the thread was opened, change to "possibly, if you have enough money." So this person has no right to come blustering in here full of venom and attack me. It is very obvious that he saw the title of the thread and knew d@mn well what he was going to say from the get-go.

As far as the pedals, I will tell you all now, straight out, that I have decided not to sell any of them. So from this point forward there is no "possibly." OK? I simply enjoy them too much to sell. That is the one and only reason. I cannot seem to part with them. I was very close, but when I got to the edge I couldn't jump. I'm just a human being. So don't act like your superior; eat something bad and, just like me, you'll get diarrhea. Right? If I sold any of these pedals then I would just end up looking for them again and would almost surely have to pay MUCH more than I paid for them the first time. I I do not enjoy them nearly as much if I paid "collector" prices for them than if I scored a deal at a garage sale or flea market etc. I'm sure you can relate to this. So why put myself through it? At the end of the day I CHANGED MY MIND. So sue me. However, I will always be more than happy to post pictures of them or provide gutshots. Not a problem! At least when I am HERE anyway - I can hardly do them when I am not here! So, any specific requests? It does appear from this post that I have time at the moment!

PS - I am no fan of dealers and speculators either, but what if there were none, and all of the pedals were out there being sold all over the place? If none of them cost a lot, none of them were rare, nobody lusted after a particular pedal and made it their life's work to find it at any cost? No pedals had mojo, nobody cared what you had in your chain, forums like this and books like Analog Man's did not exist because nobody was interested? We all hate the dealers but we all know secretly that they are a necessary evil. And they are always going to be there, as long as any one thing is ever more desirable than any one other thing. Think about it - how could there NOT be dealers? If all of the pedals were suddenly released from the hands of dealers, and priced at $50 each no matter what they were, do you really think that the whole thing wouldn't start all over again? You KNOW that you would be out there, buying as many of the most desirable pedals as you could at fifty bucks a pop! And so would I. And when they were all bought up the cycle would start all over again. The only way to stop it would be laws requiring the immediate death penalty for anyone selling a pedal for more than $50. So just own up to it to yourself and enjoy it for what it is. It really is more fun this way. The way that I deal (pun not intended) with it is that I try to buy only from non-dealers as much as possible, and when I do go to a dealer to go to one who is a musician and music lover and gearhead and is doing mainly it to fund their own G.A.S. (if you don't know what that is then you ain't one!). One that will never be wealthy in money but rich in friends. The kind that will occasionally sell an old pedal "worth" $500 to somebody for $50 (and not tell them the "real" value) just because they knew that the person would appreciate the pedal so much and could not afford it otherwise. One who recognizes that monetary value is only what somebody says it is. I try to avoid dealers who are in it strictly for the money, or dicks, as I call them.