Lovetone - Flange With No Name

soulsonic · Post by **soulsonic** » 15 Aug 2007, 09:17

Someone's posted up a bunch of gutshots and a parts list for the Lovetone Flange With No Name over on the other forum.
https://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/ ... ic=60288.0
Better get it while it's still up!

bajaman · Post by **bajaman** » 15 Aug 2007, 10:21

Thanks martin
it is in my memory banks

Now that should give AG some fun

bajaman

markm · Post by **markm** » 15 Aug 2007, 13:19

There were no Trace pics though.

Post by **modman** » 16 Aug 2007, 07:33

Better copy the parts list here too. Didn't some Buck get banned before? Strange first post anyway. But good.

R1-68k MF
R2-100k MF
R3-100k
R4-39k
R5-100 Ohm
R6-10k 5band
R7-120k
R8-100k
R9-100k
R10-39k
R11-1ok
R12-39k
R13-10k
R14-100k
R15-4.7k
R16-3.9k
R17-47 Ohm 1/2watt
R18-47 Ohm
R19-10k
R20-39k
R21-330 Ohm
R22-10k
R23-100k
R24-2.2k
R25-2.2k
R26-100k
R27-1.2M
R28-39k
R29-100k
R30-47 Ohm
R31-Jump
R32-4.7k
R33-4.7k
R34-2.2k
R35-470k
R36-36k
R37-1k
R38-1k
R39-39k
R40-330 ohms
R41-1k
R42-1.2k
R43-330 ohms
R44-2.2M
R45-470k
R46-470k
R47-2.2M
R482.2M
R49-10k With Ferrite
R50-10k
R51-39k
R52-4.7k
R53-4.7k
R54-470k
R55-39k
R56-100k
R57-1k
R58-2.2k
R59-1k
R60-2.2k
R61-jump
R62-39k attached to cap 12 lead!
R63-1.2M
R64-330 ohm
R65-39k
R66-100k
R67-330 Ohm
R68-2.2k
R69-470k
R70-2.2k
R71-100k
R72-4.7k attached to 22k trim pot leg, then diode ring which is attached to - side of cap29, which is attched to Q16 left hand lead.
R73-4.7k
R74-33 ohm
R75-22k
R76-2.2M
R77-1.2M
R78-470k
R79-1k
R80-1k
81-39k
R82-100 Ohm
R83-4.7k
R84-10k
R85-10k
R85-Jump
R86-Jump
trim pots 22k

Pots
1 100k b20
2 100k d20
3 100k d20
4 100k b20
5 100k b20
6 100k b20

Trafo n49 1200d +44(0) 1993 883214 tele sticker handwritten 19

c1 10uf 35v
c2 220uf
c3 220uf
c4 10uf
c5 10uf
c6 10uf
c7 10uf

c1 u47 k63
c2 0,01
c3 0,01
c4 u1
c5 u1
c6 u1
c7 u1
c8 u1
c9 47n
c10 u1
c11 u1
c12 0,1
c13 u1
c14 u1
c15 u1
c16 3n3
c17 1n
c18 u1
c19 u1
c20 47n

q1 j 1136 p836cp
q2 bc30 7 b m926 (motorola)
q3 bc 549
q4 bc 549
q5 bc 549
q6 p836cp
q7 bc 549
q8 bc 549
q9 bc 549
q10 bc549
q11 p836cp
q12 bc 549
q13 p836cp
q14 p836p
q15 bc549
q16 bc549
q17 bc549

Daughterboard:
R1 10k
R2 10k
R3 100k
R4 100k
R5 10k
R6 100k
R7 330r
R8 4.7K
R9 jumper
R10 120k

c1 2n2
c2 u1
c3 u1
c4 u1
c5 2n2
ec1 10u
ec2 10u

Polycap labeled "100"

ICs
ic1 mn3?
ic2 mn3?

trim pot 22k

d1
d2 see pic

soulsonic · Post by **soulsonic** » 16 Aug 2007, 09:42

Yeah, there's trace pics... like this:
https://img171.imageshack.us/img171/840 ... 004eg3.jpg

playon · Post by **playon** » 11 Mar 2008, 04:34

So how are the clones coming along boys? Looks like it would be a tough one to me.

I finally got my LT Flanger fixed and since a some people were asking about a demo I finally got off my butt and made a video, so here it is:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...05537105016438

It actually sounds much better in person, I will try to do another vid with better audio, the amp properly miked, etc.

marshmellow · Post by **marshmellow** » 12 Mar 2008, 13:10

Correct link

Never mind playon, thanks for the video

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playon · Post by **playon** » 12 Mar 2008, 20:25

I've upped it to youtube as well:

Sorry about the bad google link.

Stephengiles · Post by **Stephengiles** » 12 Mar 2008, 21:37

Nice demo, I don't think it can do any more than the ADA. The next stage in flanging is barberpole.

playon · Post by **playon** » 12 Mar 2008, 21:53

You have to hear it in person, or with a better recording... the audio quality on these clips make critical listening impossible... I mean it's a camera mic and 128 bit rate MP3. It doesn't have any of that metallic sound, the sound of the thing is gorgeous, far beyond any other stompbox flanger. As well it has more parameters you can dial in & tweak. I didn't even get into the other features with it, the stereo thing, the light jack, the expression pedal, or the effects loop. But really it's the sound, super warm and fat. Once you hear it there's no going back... they are worth the money they sell for... unlike the ADA most of them end up being used recording studios.

Stephengiles · Post by **Stephengiles** » 13 Mar 2008, 20:46

Possibly, I've thought for a long time that the fancy sounds from a flanger are great to listen to at home and catch your dog's attention, but in a band situation you can't keep mucking about with the controls so a Standard Electric Mistress is as good as any.

playon · Post by **playon** » 13 Mar 2008, 22:47

Well I've gigged with mine, when I use it live I just leave it set for leslie/vibe sounds, I don't tweak it a bunch other than changing the rate/speed slower or faster. It sounds very creamy with overdriven pedals/amps.

borislavgajic · Post by **borislavgajic** » 02 Apr 2010, 10:08

Please....
is that BBD .... MN3002 ?

and what is little box on right side of PCB?

cheers
Boris

chicago_mike · Post by **chicago_mike** » 02 Apr 2010, 10:43

MN3102 and an MN3007 are my guess.

I also think the box is a transformer.

mictester · Post by **mictester** » 02 Apr 2010, 11:59

chicago_mike wrote:MN3102 and an MN3007 are my guess.

I also think the box is a transformer.

Nearly - 3101 and 3007. The "thing on the right" is a voltage converter module. They used to be a common way of getting different supply rails when a designer couldn't be arsed to build a supply with all the outputs that a circuit needed!

chicago_mike · Post by **chicago_mike** » 02 Apr 2010, 12:40

So its a fancy 7815 and a 7915 or similar in one package?

borislavgajic · Post by **borislavgajic** » 02 Apr 2010, 14:22

mictester wrote:
chicago_mike wrote:MN3102 and an MN3007 are my guess.

I also think the box is a transformer.
Nearly - 3101 and 3007. The "thing on the right" is a voltage converter module. They used to be a common way of getting different supply rails when a designer couldn't be arsed to build a supply with all the outputs that a circuit needed!

On this picture... https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v21/markusw/1-1.jpg
you can see last number of IC is 2......mn3002???.....

Boris

oldgravity · Post by **oldgravity** » 02 Apr 2010, 20:46

I built one with an MN3102 and 3207. The thing on the right is a transformer. I used one of the little Mouser ones, don't remember now which, but I can dig it out if anyone cares. I defer to mictester's knowledge, he knows way more about EE theory than I, however I built it with a trafo and it works, so, I don't know.

It's a pretty ridiculous build. Sounds are fun, but I'm not sure it's worth the trouble.

mictester · Post by **mictester** » 02 Apr 2010, 21:22

chicago_mike wrote:So its a fancy 7815 and a 7915 or similar in one package?

Not quite, Mike. It's mostly an inverter, consisting of an oscillator (usually at around 80 - 100 kHz) driving a transformer (which does most of the voltage change), into a bridge rectifier and then some regulators. There is usually some clever feedback from the output to control the mark - space ratio of the oscillator to optimise the energy transfer. They are made for up and down voltage conversions, and have fixed outputs and a fairly small range of input voltages.

These little DC-DC converters used to be very common, but nowadays the MAX1044 and the National Simple Switcher series and all the others make supply conversion easy.

playon · Post by **playon** » 02 Apr 2010, 22:10

oldgravity wrote:I built one with an MN3102 and 3207. The thing on the right is a transformer. I used one of the little Mouser ones, don't remember now which, but I can dig it out if anyone cares. I defer to mictester's knowledge, he knows way more about EE theory than I, however I built it with a trafo and it works, so, I don't know.

It's a pretty ridiculous build. Sounds are fun, but I'm not sure it's worth the trouble.

I guess that's probably why Lovetone discontinued it fairly quickly. I love mine though, I'll never get rid of it... probably the most fun stompbox ever IMO.

Lovetone - Flange With No Name [traced]