Sam Ash - Fuzzstainer / Fuzz Stainer

theehman · Post by **theehman** » 09 Mar 2009, 18:38

Falling into the category of "pedals only Ron Neely has ever seen" would probably be the Sam Ash Fuzz-stainer. I picked one up at the Columbus, OH guitar show back around 1996-1998. It was in an MXR-sized box with 3 knobs: Drive, Tone, Volume. I don't remember the color but I do remember it had an adhesive label on the top w/ "Sam Ash Fuzz-stainer" printed on it. Unfortunately this was before the crazy vintage effects market and I ended up trading it off, probably for an EH pedal. Probably worth a fortune now.
Has anybody else ever seen one?

MillsApparatus · Post by **MillsApparatus** » 13 Apr 2009, 08:55

I've never seen one but I believe that the Sam Ash branded pedal was just a Shine-ei Companion with a different sticker. The only one I've seen a picture of was in the Shin-ei wedge shaped box, so maybe yours was different under the hood. This schematic looks like it might be the one you're looking for, layout is here and PCB is here. Obviously I can't be sure it's the same pedal but it is a three-knob Sam Ash branded fuzz so that's something. The name is different though, so who knows. Hopefully this is better than nothing...

theehman · Post by **theehman** » 13 Apr 2009, 15:00

From what I remember of the sound, it was nothing like the Sam Ash Fuzz Box or a Shin-Ei pedal..

DiscoFreq · Post by **DiscoFreq** » 16 Jun 2010, 19:19

This one?

http://www.effectsdatabase.com/model/samash/fuzzstainer

RnFR · Post by **RnFR** » 17 Jun 2010, 03:57

of course!

DiscoFreq · Post by **DiscoFreq** » 17 Jun 2010, 06:51

You have one?

theehman · Post by **theehman** » 17 Jun 2010, 13:23

See? I'm not crazy after all. It does exist!!

jrod · Post by **jrod** » 17 Jun 2010, 14:02

Looks like Portland Guitar Repair is selling a clone soon (thanks discofreq for the link). I just emailed them for price, etc. Maybe their clone can be reversed for a schematic!

theehman · Post by **theehman** » 17 Jun 2010, 14:51

jrod wrote:Looks like Portland Guitar Repair is selling a clone soon (thanks discofreq for the link). I just emailed them for price, etc. Maybe their clone can be reversed for a schematic!

I have a schematic I drew from the unit I owned. I've sent it to Analogguru for checking and will post it when it's OK'd.

jrod · Post by **jrod** » 17 Jun 2010, 16:01

Oh, great! Would love to see it!

Thanks

DougH · Post by **DougH** » 18 Jun 2010, 16:12

Don't know if the "fuzz-stainer" is the same as the "Sam Ash Fuzz" but the Sam Ash Fuzz (aka Astrotone) has been covered ad nauseum in the past. Plenty of schematics etc available on the net. I built an Astrotone a couple years ago.

theehman · Post by **theehman** » 18 Jun 2010, 16:23

DougH wrote:Don't know if the "fuzz-stainer" is the same as the "Sam Ash Fuzz" but the Sam Ash Fuzz (aka Astrotone) has been covered ad nauseum in the past. Plenty of schematics etc available on the net. I built an Astrotone a couple years ago.

It's a different circuit.

jrod · Post by **jrod** » 22 Jul 2010, 14:10

Any news on this schematic yet?

Effectsiation · Post by **Effectsiation** » 25 Aug 2010, 12:58

Here's a video of that clone:

jrod · Post by **jrod** » 07 Oct 2010, 16:59

Bump!

Any headway on this schematic?

theehman · Post by **theehman** » 07 Oct 2010, 17:19

jrod wrote:Bump!

Any headway on this schematic?

No word but here's the schematic anyway. Not verified.
I drew this from a sketch I made of the circuitry years ago.

samashfs.jpg

jrod · Post by **jrod** » 07 Oct 2010, 21:33

Thanks for posting the preliminary schematic, theehman!

Reminds me a little of the germanium FuzzRite: http://eu11.stripper.jp/pulcino/blog/im ... zzrite.gif
and the EKI Fuzz: http://www.aronnelson.com/gallery/main. ... ewsIndex=1
and the Anthony Leo fuzz: http://www.swtpc.com/mholley/PopularEle ... 8_pg42.jpg

agoldoor · Post by **agoldoor** » 12 Feb 2012, 08:07

Hey... what happened to the schematic in this thread... any word ehman or AG?

theehman · Post by **theehman** » 12 Feb 2012, 13:53

agoldoor wrote:Hey... what happened to the schematic in this thread... any word ehman or AG?

I did a de-goop of a Fuzz Stang and it didn't match my schematic much at all. Either I'm out of mind (quite possible) or they made their own version with different values. I may have to post the schematic I did of the Fuzz-Stang.

jrod · Post by **jrod** » 12 Feb 2012, 19:47

I just read through a thread over at the DAM forum and there may have been different versions of the Fuzz Stainer. It would interesting to see your trace for the Fuzz Stang to see how it is set up.

Sam Ash - Fuzzstainer / Fuzz Stainer [schematic]