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Ibanez - Dirt Box 1976 - Maxon board MP-0701 [schematic]
Posted: 07 Apr 2009, 21:39
by MrHuge
Hey, does anyone have a picture of this pedal? I traced this circuit back in the '90's... But I didn't take a picture of it...
It's green and has the old butterfly logo Ibanez pedal like this (but it says DIRT BOX):
Re: Ibanez Dirt Box
Posted: 08 Apr 2009, 10:27
by patafix
The design of this circuit is very much like an MXR dist III.
Dist+ distortion section & sort of tubescreamer tone section...
Re: Ibanez Dirt Box
Posted: 08 Apr 2009, 12:47
by Dirk_Hendrik
If there's anyone that knows it's discofreq.
Re: Ibanez Dirt Box
Posted: 08 Apr 2009, 15:26
by DiscoFreq
I never heard of it...
It could be some kind of prototype, I once found an ad for an Ibanez Distortion Sustainer from this series, but never saw one:
http://filters.muziq.be/model/ibanez/fi ... nsustainer
Re: Ibanez Dirt Box
Posted: 08 Apr 2009, 15:31
by puppiesonacid
i thought dirt box was a DOD pedal name? anyways, is this what the green rhino is based on?
Re: Ibanez Dirt Box
Posted: 08 Apr 2009, 16:48
by MrHuge
Green Rhino is a TS-808 (before the Fulldrive)
I actually had the Ibanez (might have been Maxon) pedal and traced the circuit... My buddy has one and said he'd dig it out... I'll snap some pics then.
-MH
Re: Ibanez Dirt Box
Posted: 08 Apr 2009, 17:01
by briggs
Very nice, I love old Ibanez and Maxon stuff.
Re: Ibanez Dirt Box
Posted: 08 Apr 2009, 17:11
by DiscoFreq
MrHuge wrote:Green Rhino is a TS-808 (before the Fulldrive)
I actually had the Ibanez (might have been Maxon) pedal and traced the circuit... My buddy has one and said he'd dig it out... I'll snap some pics then.
-MH
Or maybe it's one of those SLM or other OEM pedals made by Maxon?
Whatever it is, I'm very curious to see it!
Re: Ibanez Dirt Box
Posted: 08 Apr 2009, 23:18
by briggs
I wish Ibanez still made their pedals in a box like that with the full foot switch on. Seems like it would be easier for them to assemble too. Got anymore Ibanez rarities Jeorge? My thirst for Ibanez rarities is surpassed only by my thirst for Pearl FX rarities, of which I almost have the full collection!
Re: Ibanez Dirt Box
Posted: 09 Apr 2009, 06:18
by DiscoFreq
briggs wrote:I wish Ibanez still made their pedals in a box like that with the full foot switch on. Seems like it would be easier for them to assemble too. Got anymore Ibanez rarities Jeorge? My thirst for Ibanez rarities is surpassed only by my thirst for Pearl FX rarities, of which I almost have the full collection!
Do you know other Ibanez rarities like this?
I never saw this one under the Ibanez name:
http://filters.muziq.be/model/ibanez/first/83
And for Pearl, I have the F-600 series complete since I found an Electro-Echo a few weeks ago:
http://filters.muziq.be/model/pearl/f600
(I also have a Vorg Phase Shifter from the same series
)
Re: Ibanez Dirt Box
Posted: 09 Apr 2009, 06:47
by Dirk_Hendrik
Congrats!!
That was about time!
Re: Ibanez Dirt Box
Posted: 09 Apr 2009, 07:34
by DiscoFreq
Dirk_Hendrik wrote:Congrats!!
That was about time!
Thanks, I didn't want to pay too much for it
Time for a group picture one of these days
Re: Ibanez Dirt Box
Posted: 09 Apr 2009, 10:30
by briggs
Nope, never seen one, let alone owned one!
I'd love to see some images of them
Re: Ibanez Dirt Box
Posted: 09 Apr 2009, 10:34
by DiscoFreq
briggs wrote:Nope, never seen one, let alone owned one!
I'd love to see some images of them
About which effects are you talking now? Pearl F-600 series or that Ibanez Fuzz?
Here's an old picture (with my old cam) of the F-600 pedals (but without the Electro-Echo):
Re: Ibanez Dirt Box
Posted: 09 Apr 2009, 10:40
by briggs
The F-600 series! They look very cool indeed
Re: Ibanez Dirt Box
Posted: 09 Apr 2009, 18:43
by Fuzzer
I'm drooling all over my keyboard.
Re: Ibanez Dirt Box
Posted: 06 Dec 2011, 10:18
by DiscoFreq
Jeorge,
No answer by mail, so I try here...
Was it this one:
http://www.effectsdatabase.com/model/unknown/dirtbox
Or did it really say "Ibanez"?
Thanks!
Re: Ibanez Dirt Box
Posted: 18 Jun 2015, 08:37
by modman
http://tonemachines.blogspot.be/2012/02 ... -1976.html
Well upon closer inspection it turns out that it is the same circuit as the Ibanez Overdrive II! Which itself was the precurser to the Tube Screamer. This is not to say that it sounds like a Tube Screamer, because it really doesn't; and it definitely doesn't sound like the Ibanez Overdrive OD850, which is more of a Big Muff (discussed at length in an earlier post). Nope, but it does have a pretty cool gritty dark overdriven tone that isn't too far off from the op-amp version of the Electro Harmonix Muff Fuzz plugin. (...)
So why did Ibanez choose make two pedals with the same exact circuit at the same time but with different names? We can only speculate, but here's my theory:
The original Ibanez Overdrive OD850 was a flop for the first couple of years it was out, purely because it was a fuzz and NOT an overdrive. So, in my opinion, Ibanez decided to distance themselves from that original mistake and create a totally new pedal with a name that gave a better indication of what it would sound like. The problem is a "Dirt Box" can be anything from a Fuzz to a Distortion to an Overdrive. So instead of making it more shopper friendly, they actually made it HARDER to figure out what the hell it did?!?!///
And in the face of failure they decided to go back to the "Overdrive" moniker and realized that they could bill it as a completely NEW and IMPROVED version of that crappy old OD850 (that they continue to make to this day under different, but not any less confusing, names).