The Cheapo Pedal Buyer's Guide

soulsonic · Post by **soulsonic** » 06 Jan 2008, 14:59

Check these out:
http://www.gibson.com/en%2Dus/Divisions ... ectsPedal/
http://www.gibson.com/en%2Dus/Divisions ... ectsPedal/
http://www.gibson.com/en%2Dus/Divisions ... ectsPedal/

I found these for sale today at a local supermarket for about $40 each. The cases are metal and quite heavy.
They also look identical to the "Daphon" branded pedals selling in the UK which Sock Puppet mentioned in another thread.
Could be very useful with some tweaks. I'll try to get ahold of one soon to give a report.

Dirk_Hendrik · Post by **Dirk_Hendrik** » 06 Jan 2008, 15:30

And so thay are. No need looking at the brand names. It' s just the same a s with good 'ol Shin-Ei. You want to add an FX line to your products line. We make em for you with your name on them.

briggs · Post by **briggs** » 06 Jan 2008, 15:40

I've got a johnson one of those. Crunch thingy, it's just a toobscreamer with asym clipping.

TubeDude22 · Post by **TubeDude22** » 08 Jan 2008, 13:43

They look like the Daiphon pedals that were on Ebay a while back.

sidseizure · Post by **sidseizure** » 09 Jan 2008, 23:15

I got one of the Daphon overdrive pedals off Ebay last year for under $30. If anyone's interested, here's a couple of gut shots:

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003 ... rd_top.jpg
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003 ... bottom.jpg
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003 ... 0D_top.jpg

soulsonic · Post by **soulsonic** » 09 Jan 2008, 23:39

Awesome, no SMD! That means these guys can be easily modded.
Thanks!

NickS · Post by **NickS** » 15 Jan 2008, 15:27

In the USA, search Best Buy for Starcaster - three pedals for Fender's low-end range at around $39 each.

In the UK there's an ebay store, >>Harrier Music<< selling the Daphon stuff at £19.99 plus £4.99 p&p. £18.99 for the distortion. Searching for Daphon finds cheaper Buy It Nows, e.g. flanger for £12.99 + £5 p&p >>here<<.

Post by **modman** » 16 Jan 2008, 11:11

I like this thread, so I retitled it from just Maestro Gibson... to

The Cheapo Pedal Buyer's Guide

So if you find more cheap pedals sources, please update this link. If you are actually working on one, please share your findings with us in a separate thread.

thanks

Dirk_Hendrik · Post by **Dirk_Hendrik** » 16 Jan 2008, 18:13

soulsonic wrote:Awesome, no SMD! That means these guys can be easily modded.
Thanks!

sissy

soulsonic · Post by **soulsonic** » 16 Jan 2008, 20:32

Dirk_Hendrik wrote:
soulsonic wrote:Awesome, no SMD! That means these guys can be easily modded.
Thanks!
sissy

I know... I even own an SMD tweezer iron.

Sock Puppet · Post by **Sock Puppet** » 17 Jan 2008, 10:37

FWIW I can add the Daphon E20CM compressor

https://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj2 ... /E20CM.jpg
https://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj2 ... CMback.jpg
https://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj2 ... 0CMbrd.jpg
https://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj2 ... CMbrd2.jpg

And The E20GE 7 band Equalizer

https://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj2 ... /E20GE.jpg
https://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj2 ... GEback.jpg
https://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj2 ... 0GEbrd.jpg

S.

moro · Post by **moro** » 17 Jan 2008, 15:31

Sweet. I've been looking for a US source for the analog delay. I believe they are the same as the Analogman AR20DL:

http://www.buyanalogman.com/AR20DL_Anal ... ar20dl.htm

I've found a guy on eBay who sells them but he's located in Australia.

https://stores.ebay.com/Swamp-Industrie ... idZ2QQtZkm

(They're out of the delay atm.)

moro · Post by **moro** » 17 Jan 2008, 15:49

Also, the First Act pedals at Toys R Us might be worth checking out. At $40, the distortion doesn't seem like a great deal, but the chorus and delay are also $40. I like the enclosures--they seem really sturdy.

Chorus
Delay
Distortion

gtrwrks · Post by **gtrwrks** » 17 Jan 2008, 17:39

What is the IC in the Daphon Comp, Sock Puppet? I can't read it from the picture.

Sock Puppet · Post by **Sock Puppet** » 17 Jan 2008, 19:21

Poor picture I know. I'd put everything away before I'd seen it.

The I.C. is an LM3080N. There are also 6 x 2SC1815, 3 x 2SK30A and a 78L09 regulator.

The pedal weighs 628g without a battery.

S.

Sock Puppet · Post by **Sock Puppet** » 17 Jan 2008, 19:28

moro wrote:Sweet. I've been looking for a US source for the analog delay. I believe they are the same as the Analogman AR20DL:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/W-W-NEW-Daphon-DE ... p1638.m122

S.

KHELSTROM · Post by **KHELSTROM** » 17 Jan 2008, 20:25

moro wrote:Also, the First Act pedals at Toys R Us might be worth checking out. At $40, the distortion doesn't seem like a great deal, but the chorus and delay are also $40. I like the enclosures--they seem really sturdy.

Chorus
Delay
Distortion

I bought the First act Delay from Toys R Us and it was pretty bad. If I remember correctly it used a PT2399 chip. On longer repeat times the sound had this low bit-rate digital crunch soung going on. I ended up returning it and I got the distortion. It dose sound pretty bad but I plan on tracing it and seeing what I can do to tweak it.

soulsonic · Post by **soulsonic** » 17 Jan 2008, 21:39

What kind of circuit does the E20DL use? A bucket brigade? What is the longest delay time? How are they doing an analog that cheap, regardless of where it's made? Is this waiting to get modded into a DMM?

moro · Post by **moro** » 17 Jan 2008, 22:57

Sock Puppet wrote:
moro wrote:Sweet. I've been looking for a US source for the analog delay. I believe they are the same as the Analogman AR20DL:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/W-W-NEW-Daphon-DE ... p1638.m122

S.

Thanks! I just bought it.

moro · Post by **moro** » 17 Jan 2008, 23:01

soulsonic wrote:What kind of circuit does the E20DL use? A bucket brigade? What is the longest delay time? How are they doing an analog that cheap, regardless of where it's made? Is this waiting to get modded into a DMM?

I was saying it looked like the Analogman pedal. He says right on his page that it's the same thing.

http://analogman.com/delay.htm

So, he swaps out the compander, replaces the stock 3208 for a 3205, adds a few trimpots and makes a couple other tweaks.