EH - Bass Micro Synth

Original effects with schematics, layouts and instructions, freely contributed by members or found in publications. Cannot be used for commercial purposes without the consent of the owners of the copyright.
User avatar
S. Thompson
Information
Posts: 7
Joined: 26 Oct 2010, 17:23

Post by S. Thompson »

tuemmueh wrote:There seems to be some incorrect information around ...
According to the factory schematic, the following parts need to be changed for the bass-version:
C6=2u2 (1u)
C7=1u (0.47u)
C8=0.1u (0.056u)
R62=12k (2k2)
Thank you so much for this information. Everywhere else I've been reading the wrong information.

By the by, would you happen to know what handles the maximum output of the voices on the pedal? The original signal voice and square wave can match or exceed the volume of the input signal. The sub-octave and octave voices come no where close to being as loud though. There has to be a simple way to make the volume of the voices more uniform... I'm just not sure how. :)

- Steve

User avatar
the_ungod
Information
Posts: 46
Joined: 03 Jan 2008, 16:12
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 7 times

Post by the_ungod »

Hi,

Does anyone has a layout for the new version?! Just one pcb?!

^Thanks

User avatar
S. Thompson
Information
Posts: 7
Joined: 26 Oct 2010, 17:23

Post by S. Thompson »

the_ungod wrote:Hi,

Does anyone has a layout for the new version?! Just one pcb?!

^Thanks
I believe all the components on the XO version are surface mount, but I'm not sure how much the actual circuit has changed.

Has anyone messed with the diodes for the octave section? I know Shotgunn mentioned swapping the octave diodes out for 1N34A germaniums and getting a sort of octavia sound.

I'd love to do this, but which diodes should be switched? I'm trying to trace through the schematic to determine, but if anyone knows off-hand, let me know. :)

Once I get done with all of these modifications, I'll probably post something up on my site detailing each. So far, the most functional has been replacing the stock LED with a bi-color one that changes between red and green based on if the effect is in bypass or not.

- Steve

User avatar
borislavgajic
Opamp Operator
Information
Posts: 1542
Joined: 27 Feb 2008, 14:23
Completed builds: ...script phase90,ETI phaser,Ross phaser,mutronC200,vox wah,WH10,FW-3,mutronIII,DrQuack,Penfoldautowah,Tubezipper,
Dipthonizer,seekwah,Talkingpedal,morleywha
...soulpreacher,dynacomp,compulator
...buzzaround,fuzzfactory,screwdriver,sho,superdouper,St-9,RogerMayer octavia,Tychobrahe octavia,paralelluniverse,string damper,slowgear
...CE-2,ibanez fL301,EH theCloneTheory
EHX bassmicrosynth,EHX EnglishMuffin,Tube Phaser,springtubereverb ,greyDOD,FulldriveII mosfet,OCD,VOX repeat percussion,RingStinger,Meatball,12stage phaser....
Location: Sombor , Serbia
Has thanked: 131 times
Been thanked: 281 times

Post by borislavgajic »

S. Thompson wrote:
the_ungod wrote:Hi,

Does anyone has a layout for the new version?! Just one pcb?!

^Thanks
I believe all the components on the XO version are surface mount, but I'm not sure how much the actual circuit has changed.

Has anyone messed with the diodes for the octave section? I know Shotgunn mentioned swapping the octave diodes out for 1N34A germaniums and getting a sort of octavia sound.

I'd love to do this, but which diodes should be switched? I'm trying to trace through the schematic to determine, but if anyone knows off-hand, let me know. :)

Once I get done with all of these modifications, I'll probably post something up on my site detailing each. So far, the most functional has been replacing the stock LED with a bi-color one that changes between red and green based on if the effect is in bypass or not.

- Steve
......I have do that with diodes....2 diodes ,and made them switchable.......not drastic changes for my taste.......but you can try that out and see.......

much better is foot pedal modification......hmmmm ...I have foot sw for switching trigger on and off.......

Boris

User avatar
f-banks88
Information
Posts: 1
Joined: 03 Apr 2010, 15:32

Post by f-banks88 »

Hi I'm new here. I tried building two of this version, one for me and one for my friend. The reason I chose this version of the PCB was because it was only one board and It gave me some flexibilty on choosing which kind of power supply to use. I also decided it was more economical to use the NJM13700 instead of the CA3094, Mainly because from small bear the CA3094 costs $6.75, and the NJM13700 costs only $1.02 and does what two 3094's can do so it was only $8.16 worth of chips compared to $94.50. My problem I think I've got the pin outs converted correctly But I was wondering if any of you guys had tried this with any success. Also when I have it plugged in for testing I have to amplify the effected signal alot more compared to the bypassed signal. The sound I'm getting sounds like all of the voices are going at the same time. Like the sub octave, octave, guitar, and Square wave are all sounding but none of the faders do anything to affect the sound. also the trigger makes a high pitched squeal when pulled all the way down, and none of the frequency controls do anything. So if you guys have any trouble shooting ideas they would much appreciated.
Thanks! Alex

User avatar
borislavgajic
Opamp Operator
Information
Posts: 1542
Joined: 27 Feb 2008, 14:23
Completed builds: ...script phase90,ETI phaser,Ross phaser,mutronC200,vox wah,WH10,FW-3,mutronIII,DrQuack,Penfoldautowah,Tubezipper,
Dipthonizer,seekwah,Talkingpedal,morleywha
...soulpreacher,dynacomp,compulator
...buzzaround,fuzzfactory,screwdriver,sho,superdouper,St-9,RogerMayer octavia,Tychobrahe octavia,paralelluniverse,string damper,slowgear
...CE-2,ibanez fL301,EH theCloneTheory
EHX bassmicrosynth,EHX EnglishMuffin,Tube Phaser,springtubereverb ,greyDOD,FulldriveII mosfet,OCD,VOX repeat percussion,RingStinger,Meatball,12stage phaser....
Location: Sombor , Serbia
Has thanked: 131 times
Been thanked: 281 times

Post by borislavgajic »

check your build against schematic........and let us know......or post some photos of your build here :thumbsup

User avatar
lufox15
Breadboard Brother
Information
Posts: 52
Joined: 30 Oct 2009, 02:03
my favorite amplifier: Fender
Completed builds: Rat, TS808, Microsynth, MT-2, MagnusModulus, Phase 90, WH10, Dynacomp, CE-2, SansAmp GT2, Envelope Filter, BMP, Fuzz Factory
Has thanked: 3 times

Post by lufox15 »

f-banks88 wrote:My problem I think I've got the pin outs converted correctly But I was wondering if any of you guys had tried this with any success. Also when I have it plugged in for testing I have to amplify the effected signal alot more compared to the bypassed signal.
How you replace the CA3094? post a schematic please, i have tried that, viewing the new XO schematic version that i made, but i dont have any signal on the output, using transistors and the LM13700.
Sorry about my english.

User avatar
fakcior
Breadboard Brother
Information
Posts: 68
Joined: 31 Oct 2010, 12:22
Location: Poland
Has thanked: 4 times
Been thanked: 20 times

Post by fakcior »

Hello!
I've found CA3094A. Can I replace CA3094 with it? It has got higher max voltage (24->36v). Will it be good?

User avatar
borislavgajic
Opamp Operator
Information
Posts: 1542
Joined: 27 Feb 2008, 14:23
Completed builds: ...script phase90,ETI phaser,Ross phaser,mutronC200,vox wah,WH10,FW-3,mutronIII,DrQuack,Penfoldautowah,Tubezipper,
Dipthonizer,seekwah,Talkingpedal,morleywha
...soulpreacher,dynacomp,compulator
...buzzaround,fuzzfactory,screwdriver,sho,superdouper,St-9,RogerMayer octavia,Tychobrahe octavia,paralelluniverse,string damper,slowgear
...CE-2,ibanez fL301,EH theCloneTheory
EHX bassmicrosynth,EHX EnglishMuffin,Tube Phaser,springtubereverb ,greyDOD,FulldriveII mosfet,OCD,VOX repeat percussion,RingStinger,Meatball,12stage phaser....
Location: Sombor , Serbia
Has thanked: 131 times
Been thanked: 281 times

Post by borislavgajic »

fakcior wrote:Hello!
I've found CA3094A. Can I replace CA3094 with it? It has got higher max voltage (24->36v). Will it be good?
I think that you can...... :block:

User avatar
lufox15
Breadboard Brother
Information
Posts: 52
Joined: 30 Oct 2009, 02:03
my favorite amplifier: Fender
Completed builds: Rat, TS808, Microsynth, MT-2, MagnusModulus, Phase 90, WH10, Dynacomp, CE-2, SansAmp GT2, Envelope Filter, BMP, Fuzz Factory
Has thanked: 3 times

Post by lufox15 »

Someone have new pictures of the XO version?

User avatar
S. Thompson
Information
Posts: 7
Joined: 26 Oct 2010, 17:23

Post by S. Thompson »

So a couple of months ago (November, I think), I tried to swap out some resistor values to alter the maximum volume of each voice.

Well, something blew out because now the pedal sounds like it's gassy anytime I play anything. It just now occurred to me to come back and post here... :slap:

Here are the components I changed... the old and new values as well:

R23 8.2k->6.8k
R89 10k->8.2k
R42 13k->15k

The socketed OPAmps have been tested and they still seem to be functioning. The problem is that I really have no clue what could've blown from this change. Any help is appreciated!

- Steve

User avatar
bls31401
Information
Posts: 6
Joined: 26 Jan 2011, 06:40
Completed builds: (GGG)TS-9 with clipping mod
(GGG)Green Ringer
Has thanked: 6 times

Post by bls31401 »


Does anybody have a parts-list for this layout(or is it the same as the parts list already given for the boris layout)?

And what type of slider pots should be used for either of these micro synth clones?

User avatar
O.B.Y
Information
Posts: 27
Joined: 15 Jan 2011, 20:28
my favorite amplifier: marshall jcm 900
Completed builds: - rebote 2.5
- fuzz face.. fuzz factory with 2n404 transistor's
- electric misstress flanger
- balck cat hot cat
- big joam
- tremulus lune
and many more..
because im still learn more for it..
:)
Location: Bandung,Indonesia
Has thanked: 2 times
Contact:

Post by O.B.Y »

greaaatt..
i'll try to build this..
does anyone have problems with tis project?

User avatar
lufox15
Breadboard Brother
Information
Posts: 52
Joined: 30 Oct 2009, 02:03
my favorite amplifier: Fender
Completed builds: Rat, TS808, Microsynth, MT-2, MagnusModulus, Phase 90, WH10, Dynacomp, CE-2, SansAmp GT2, Envelope Filter, BMP, Fuzz Factory
Has thanked: 3 times

Post by lufox15 »

O.B.Y wrote:greaaatt..
i'll try to build this..
does anyone have problems with tis project?
if you're using the little pcb on the output part need to be ground a trace, cuz on the schematics the output a trace isn't grounded and the designer of the pcb have don't see the mistake.

User avatar
borislavgajic
Opamp Operator
Information
Posts: 1542
Joined: 27 Feb 2008, 14:23
Completed builds: ...script phase90,ETI phaser,Ross phaser,mutronC200,vox wah,WH10,FW-3,mutronIII,DrQuack,Penfoldautowah,Tubezipper,
Dipthonizer,seekwah,Talkingpedal,morleywha
...soulpreacher,dynacomp,compulator
...buzzaround,fuzzfactory,screwdriver,sho,superdouper,St-9,RogerMayer octavia,Tychobrahe octavia,paralelluniverse,string damper,slowgear
...CE-2,ibanez fL301,EH theCloneTheory
EHX bassmicrosynth,EHX EnglishMuffin,Tube Phaser,springtubereverb ,greyDOD,FulldriveII mosfet,OCD,VOX repeat percussion,RingStinger,Meatball,12stage phaser....
Location: Sombor , Serbia
Has thanked: 131 times
Been thanked: 281 times

Post by borislavgajic »

It seems like nobody manage to post some build results here........... :(

does that meen noone made working clone yet? :scratch: ....except me?

my ca3094 layout works nice....best wishes, and hope to see somebody post finished one here :thumbsup



Boris

User avatar
O.B.Y
Information
Posts: 27
Joined: 15 Jan 2011, 20:28
my favorite amplifier: marshall jcm 900
Completed builds: - rebote 2.5
- fuzz face.. fuzz factory with 2n404 transistor's
- electric misstress flanger
- balck cat hot cat
- big joam
- tremulus lune
and many more..
because im still learn more for it..
:)
Location: Bandung,Indonesia
Has thanked: 2 times
Contact:

Post by O.B.Y »

lufox15 wrote:
O.B.Y wrote:greaaatt..
i'll try to build this..
does anyone have problems with tis project?
if you're using the little pcb on the output part need to be ground a trace, cuz on the schematics the output a trace isn't grounded and the designer of the pcb have don't see the mistake.
oowwww...
i see.. so have you built this??

User avatar
lufox15
Breadboard Brother
Information
Posts: 52
Joined: 30 Oct 2009, 02:03
my favorite amplifier: Fender
Completed builds: Rat, TS808, Microsynth, MT-2, MagnusModulus, Phase 90, WH10, Dynacomp, CE-2, SansAmp GT2, Envelope Filter, BMP, Fuzz Factory
Has thanked: 3 times

Post by lufox15 »

O.B.Y wrote:
lufox15 wrote:
O.B.Y wrote:greaaatt..
i'll try to build this..
does anyone have problems with tis project?
if you're using the little pcb on the output part need to be ground a trace, cuz on the schematics the output a trace isn't grounded and the designer of the pcb have don't see the mistake.
oowwww...
i see.. so have you built this??
yep, works perfectly! but i haven't upload some photos. maybe later..., i'm searching for someone who can take more photos of the XO version cuz i think, that can be a better version and more cheap cuz use just 3 or 4 LM13700, that cost the half of a CA3094. i have drawn parts of the schematic.

Somebody help with photos!!!

User avatar
borislavgajic
Opamp Operator
Information
Posts: 1542
Joined: 27 Feb 2008, 14:23
Completed builds: ...script phase90,ETI phaser,Ross phaser,mutronC200,vox wah,WH10,FW-3,mutronIII,DrQuack,Penfoldautowah,Tubezipper,
Dipthonizer,seekwah,Talkingpedal,morleywha
...soulpreacher,dynacomp,compulator
...buzzaround,fuzzfactory,screwdriver,sho,superdouper,St-9,RogerMayer octavia,Tychobrahe octavia,paralelluniverse,string damper,slowgear
...CE-2,ibanez fL301,EH theCloneTheory
EHX bassmicrosynth,EHX EnglishMuffin,Tube Phaser,springtubereverb ,greyDOD,FulldriveII mosfet,OCD,VOX repeat percussion,RingStinger,Meatball,12stage phaser....
Location: Sombor , Serbia
Has thanked: 131 times
Been thanked: 281 times

Post by borislavgajic »

is this helpfull?

https://www.freestompboxes.org/viewtopic ... nth#p35051

there is large photo...... :thumbsup

User avatar
lufox15
Breadboard Brother
Information
Posts: 52
Joined: 30 Oct 2009, 02:03
my favorite amplifier: Fender
Completed builds: Rat, TS808, Microsynth, MT-2, MagnusModulus, Phase 90, WH10, Dynacomp, CE-2, SansAmp GT2, Envelope Filter, BMP, Fuzz Factory
Has thanked: 3 times

Post by lufox15 »

well, thanks for the link borislavgajic, but i had seen that picture already, i wish more close pictures for confirm the schematics and complete the missing traces.

User avatar
borislavgajic
Opamp Operator
Information
Posts: 1542
Joined: 27 Feb 2008, 14:23
Completed builds: ...script phase90,ETI phaser,Ross phaser,mutronC200,vox wah,WH10,FW-3,mutronIII,DrQuack,Penfoldautowah,Tubezipper,
Dipthonizer,seekwah,Talkingpedal,morleywha
...soulpreacher,dynacomp,compulator
...buzzaround,fuzzfactory,screwdriver,sho,superdouper,St-9,RogerMayer octavia,Tychobrahe octavia,paralelluniverse,string damper,slowgear
...CE-2,ibanez fL301,EH theCloneTheory
EHX bassmicrosynth,EHX EnglishMuffin,Tube Phaser,springtubereverb ,greyDOD,FulldriveII mosfet,OCD,VOX repeat percussion,RingStinger,Meatball,12stage phaser....
Location: Sombor , Serbia
Has thanked: 131 times
Been thanked: 281 times

Post by borislavgajic »

lufox15 wrote:well, thanks for the link borislavgajic, but i had seen that picture already, i wish more close pictures for confirm the schematics and complete the missing traces.

there is one big enough!!!........you can see all values written on board :thumbsup

can someone post pictures of finished builds here?

cheers

Boris

Post Reply