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Posted: 15 Jul 2007, 15:37
by briggs
I think it is used to reduce the voltage down from 9v to 8.2v so I guess you can't sub it out.

Posted: 15 Jul 2007, 16:13
by jt
Thanks briggs

Posted: 15 Jul 2007, 21:39
by bajaman
It is there for protection - in case some clown plugs in a higher voltage supply - they are out there - trust me on this one folks :wink: :wink:
It then clamps the dc voltage to 8.2 volts and provides stable operation from the circuit :)
Cheers
Steve

Posted: 16 Jul 2007, 09:40
by JHS
The schem is an older version w buffered bypass.

The HC was slightly altered over the years (I know at least 8 different versions w true and buffered bypass).

This version sounds very good, but maybe, depending on the trannie HFE, the values of the Zener diode must be slightly altered (+/- 25%) to get it sound right.

I prefer the new tone pot version, 'cos it can produce all inbetween sounds ( w the pot fully closed and fully opened you'll get the 2 sounds of the switch version).

JHS

Posted: 16 Jul 2007, 09:43
by bajaman
Hi JHS
Yes - but the old ones sounded more warmer to my ears because of the 741 and it's lousy high end response - sometimes good top end is not necessary, especially in distortion devices :wink:
cheers
Steve

Posted: 16 Jul 2007, 09:43
by briggs
I agree, I used Torchy's layout and it sounded great. More versatile than the switch version.

Posted: 16 Jul 2007, 09:45
by bajaman
Try an NE5534 or OPA134 instead of the TL071

Posted: 17 Jul 2007, 10:25
by analogguru
Interesting:
Crowther Hotcake XLF Bass
http://1484.bz/shinjuku/select.cgi?id=18001

analogguru

Posted: 17 Jul 2007, 11:47
by bajaman
XLF - extra low frequency - probably increased the feedback and coupling caps - BTW, it's the green led that gives it that Ka ching sound :roll: :wink:
Cheers
Steve

Posted: 17 Jul 2007, 21:50
by bluetoad
Just built this per the Torchy layout. Thanks man, turned out great. Tried out a bunch of different opamps as well; TL071 is the best to my ears, but the 741 is harsher in a nice way. A little more compressed, I think. The two sounded pretty good in parallel, but not good enough that I thought it was worth the headache.
Carl

Posted: 17 Jul 2007, 22:01
by bajaman
Hi bluetoad
Did you connect the additional 220k resistor from the inverting input (op amp pin 2) to the half rail voltage point, when trying the 741 :?: :?:
Try it
Cheers
Steve

Posted: 17 Jul 2007, 22:26
by soulsonic
I wonder what an LF411 would sound like in it? I guess I have to build one now too. :)

Posted: 26 Jul 2007, 20:54
by Mayniac
Does the value of the zener diode have an influence on the sound? The schematic lists two different values: 8.2 or 8.7 Volt. Does it make a difference?

Posted: 26 Jul 2007, 21:13
by Goop_buster
I only had a TL072 (half from) when I tried this out according to one of the older schematic.
I expected to hate it :twisted: but when I plugged it in I could not believe how good a single OP-amp could clip :shock: .

Nice circuit. Well worth the effort to try out and experiment with :D

Posted: 26 Jul 2007, 21:18
by jt
Does anyone know the differences between this and the bluesberry version?

Posted: 27 Jul 2007, 14:42
by markm
jt wrote:Does anyone know the differences between this and the bluesberry version?
I think it's mellower....no?

Posted: 27 Jul 2007, 23:13
by bajaman
Come in Bluesberry degooper :wink:

Posted: 28 Jul 2007, 09:09
by JHS
The Bluesberry has a bit more treble, so I think 1 or 2 cap values had been altered. The difference between those two is very subtle.

JHS

Posted: 28 Jul 2007, 10:50
by bajaman
Probably the 10k, 82n and 1k
try different values here for different responses :wink: :wink:
bajaman

Posted: 28 Jul 2007, 19:12
by modman
Building this now and only have a 8.2V zener or a 9.1V, check the datasheet for the original 1N5238 and it says 8.6V. AG's schematic give an alternative zener which IS 8.2V so I guess this is ok.

I read this thread with some great comments by JHS, but it doesn't tell me much about which value of zener and why.

https://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/ ... ic=50807.0

Maybe JHS could you replace that dead link?

thanks