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Re: Siegmund Microtube Double Drive gut shots
Posted: 13 Mar 2010, 19:20
by culturejam
Looks like the thread is here:
http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showth ... p?t=687013
Or at least a different thread.
Re: Siegmund Microtube Double Drive gut shots
Posted: 13 Mar 2010, 19:36
by culturejam
That power supply jack looks funky. I wonder why it has so many pins? Is it providing two different voltages?
It seems that one pin of each tube is connected directly to one of the pins on the power jack. Heaters?
Re: Siegmund Microtube Double Drive gut shots
Posted: 13 Mar 2010, 20:03
by frequencycentral
culturejam wrote:That power supply jack looks funky. I wonder why it has so many pins? Is it providing two different voltages?
It seems that one pin of each tube is connected directly to one of the pins on the power jack. Heaters?
His
website says
"Power Supply included with adjustable power to tubes"
.......so there may be more to it than meets the eye. We are not seeing the entire circuit without seeing the power supply.
I'm still betting 6111 though.
Re: Siegmund Microtube Double Drive gut shots
Posted: 13 Mar 2010, 20:07
by Jack Deville
I just stumbled across the TGP thread. Wow. Things got ugly fast!
No all that surprising at TGP. Its a censorship/boys-club thing. Drives me up the fucking wall.
Re: Siegmund Microtube Double Drive gut shots
Posted: 13 Mar 2010, 20:19
by frequencycentral
.....anyways I just used the opportunity to spam TGP with some big ol' photos of Murder One...........

Re: Siegmund Microtube Double Drive gut shots
Posted: 13 Mar 2010, 21:19
by Jack Deville
how much do you get for the Murder One?
Re: Siegmund Microtube Double Drive gut shots
Posted: 13 Mar 2010, 22:30
by frequencycentral
Jack Deville wrote:how much do you get for the Murder One?
£150 plus shipping. But less to you Jack.

Re: Siegmund Microtube Double Drive gut shots
Posted: 13 Mar 2010, 23:05
by staticinfinity
at least they didn't delete that one, but they did delete the one with these gut shots. I started a new one for that.
Re: Siegmund Microtube Double Drive gut shots
Posted: 13 Mar 2010, 23:23
by RnFR
what a bunch of bullshit. i couldn't help myself this time--- had... to.... possssttttt........ AHHHHHH!!!!!!
FUCK THAT PLACE!!!!
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Re: Siegmund Microtube Double Drive gut shots
Posted: 13 Mar 2010, 23:23
by Jack Deville
That's the TGP!!
Just give them some money, they'll forgive you.
Re: Siegmund Microtube Double Drive gut shots
Posted: 13 Mar 2010, 23:33
by staticinfinity
Deric wrote:Could be helpful to know the voltage of the power supply as well as the voltage at each tube pin.
The power supply only says is 120v 60hz which i'm sure is refering the wall current. It has a weird connector w/ 3 prongs and jacket around them. 2 of the prongs read 200v and one reads 13v.
Re: Siegmund Microtube Double Drive gut shots
Posted: 13 Mar 2010, 23:38
by staticinfinity
frequencycentral wrote:culturejam wrote:That power supply jack looks funky. I wonder why it has so many pins? Is it providing two different voltages?
It seems that one pin of each tube is connected directly to one of the pins on the power jack. Heaters?
His
website says
"Power Supply included with adjustable power to tubes"
.......so there may be more to it than meets the eye. We are not seeing the entire circuit without seeing the power supply.
I'm still betting 6111 though.
This one is older, it doesn't have the adjustable supply, just a floor wart.
Re: Siegmund Microtube Double Drive gut shots
Posted: 14 Mar 2010, 00:34
by Deric
What's the voltage at each pin of the tubes?
Re: Siegmund Microtube Double Drive gut shots
Posted: 14 Mar 2010, 02:59
by staticinfinity
I've cracked open the power supply now. There's a circuit board w/ 3 resistors and 8 diodes. The transformer is Mercury Magnetics (fancy). Part number: SGA 6-2x2pc.
I'll takes the readings off the pins when I put it back together later tonight. I'll also post a few more gut shots.
Re: Siegmund Microtube Double Drive gut shots
Posted: 14 Mar 2010, 07:00
by flood
wow, TGP sure is a whackjob hangout. makes me feel odd browsing the classifieds for used humbuckers there. i normally steer clear of the place, but just had to post on that thread.... love this forum and ampgarage.com. learned practically everything i know about amps over there.
Re: Siegmund Microtube Double Drive gut shots
Posted: 14 Mar 2010, 08:30
by staticinfinity
Re: Siegmund Microtube Double Drive gut shots
Posted: 14 Mar 2010, 10:49
by Jack Deville
Why is this PCB double sided?
Re: Siegmund Microtube Double Drive gut shots
Posted: 14 Mar 2010, 11:07
by frequencycentral
staticinfinity wrote:does the fact that the power supply puts out 200v change anyone's opinion of it being most likely 6111?
Hmmm, the supply puts out 200v but the plate resistors will drop that down some. The absolute maximum for a stock 6111 is 165v. Tubes with the 'W' and 'WA' suffix will handle more. But I'd think the voltage at pins 1 and 8 are below 165v.
staticinfinity wrote:i'm guessing that each tube gets 200v and the 12v pin is for the leds?
You mentioned 13v before. That would be logical for the two tubes' heaters running in series. And the LEDs.
Re: Siegmund Microtube Double Drive gut shots
Posted: 14 Mar 2010, 11:36
by Chrome Dinette
To my eye, it looks like one of the tubes has plate resistors that are red/yellow/red, 2.4k.
The other tube looks like it has only one plate resistor and a cathode resistor of the same value on the opposite triode's cathode, which would indicate a cathode follower. Unless I am having trouble reading the image, I see grey(maybe violet)/black/yellow, which gives 800(or700)k. That is an odd value, but I may not be seeing it right.
Re: Siegmund Microtube Double Drive gut shots
Posted: 14 Mar 2010, 12:20
by staticinfinity
Chrome Dinette wrote:To my eye, it looks like one of the tubes has plate resistors that are red/yellow/red, 2.4k.
The two tan resistors that are next to each other are red/yellow/red.
The other tube looks like it has only one plate resistor and a cathode resistor of the same value on the opposite triode's cathode, which would indicate a cathode follower. Unless I am having trouble reading the image, I see grey(maybe violet)/black/yellow, which gives 800(or700)k. That is an odd value, but I may not be seeing it right.
in person they are pink/black/yellow. i'm gonna take a guess and say the pink ones are for brown since the cap is already brown. the resistor appears 4 places on the board. all the brown carbon comp resistors look like they came from the same manufacturer. The resistors under the 5 and 6th pots are yellow/violet/yellow. There is one with grey directly directly above the 3pdt (blue/grey/pink). There is one with orange in front of the third pot (orange/blue/orange) and one with red under the 47pf cap above the 3pdt (red/red/green).