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DONT buy cheap switches!!

Posted: 17 Apr 2010, 07:31
by zeppe
OK, so I'm modding 2 GCB 95s(rev H) with a view to selling them on ebay.
I've got them all sprayed up gloss red and black and they look amazing :D
Now onto to the basic mods.

I figure I'll true bypass them with a DPDT, change a few resistors with a lot of old CC's that I have lying around
specifically the vocal mod to 68K, gain/bass to 330ohm and volume to 47k.
Was going to change the sweep cap to 0.022 and perhaps change out the transistors to 2N5172s.

Anyway, got started, all going well. Finished the true bypass, something I've done 20 times before.
The "wah" bit works perfect but there is no sound happening when the wah is not engaged. I checked the wires and soldering
again and it looks perfect. Then I check the other pedal which I was building at the same time.
The same thing, no volume when switched off but works when engaged.
I go thru everything methodically and still nothing happening and resolder some of the connections. Now one of the pedals does
not work at all :(

I also noticed as I was soldering that some of the connections on the DPDT were melting slightly and almost falling off.
Now I'm not the best solderer in the world but I've done this kind of stuff a lot and I wasnt hanging around at the switch with the iron.
I changed out the switches with 2 new ones and still all the same problems. I noticed then that if I pushed down on parts of the DPDT
I would occasionally get sound but it was intermittent, aaaaaargh!! The problem couldnt be the switches??
These switches were brand new so I then decided to use a decent old 3PDT I had lying around.
Perfect, worked first time..

SO, the moral of the story. DONT buy cheap ass DPDTs. I had 4 fail on me, never again. Got them from effectsconnection.
Never had a problem before with them. Really want to mail them about it but cant access the site at the moment.

Going to get a batch of decent 3PDTs and just pay the money. Worth it especially if you're selling stuff.

Now back to the wahing board...

Cormac

http://www.myspace.com/dupedmusic

Re: DONT buy cheap switches!!

Posted: 17 Apr 2010, 10:17
by Hides-His-Eyes
What brand were they?

Re: DONT buy cheap switches!!

Posted: 17 Apr 2010, 15:57
by zeppe
Just looked on effectsconnection, finally was able to access their site.

Its just the standard DPDT switch, $2.25. I'm gonna mail them right now.

I've had no problems with their 3PDT or other gear in the past , but I thought I'd try the DPDT as
the 3PDT was out of stock.. i

Re: DONT buy cheap switches!!

Posted: 17 Apr 2010, 20:09
by lolbou
"Penny wise and pound foolish", they say... :wink:

Same goes for tools, and for so many other things... :D

Re: DONT buy cheap switches!!

Posted: 18 Apr 2010, 03:50
by CHEEZOR
lolbou wrote:"Penny wise and pound foolish", they say... :wink:

Same goes for tools, and for so many other things... :D

Oh man! I cant STAND crappy quality tools. Nothing beats a nice quality tool that is right for the job!

Re: DONT buy cheap switches!!

Posted: 18 Apr 2010, 22:59
by phibes
Do you use a temperature controlled iron? Those aren't the best switches in the world but it also sounds like your irons too hot. If you notice something melting, that's a good indicator.

Re: DONT buy cheap switches!!

Posted: 18 Apr 2010, 23:06
by roseblood11
It is rugged and will last a lifetime
...of a dayfly.

I just bought some of these. :roll:

Re: DONT buy cheap switches!!

Posted: 19 Apr 2010, 12:27
by zeppe
Well, a temperature controlled iron is definitely on my "to buy" list.

I've had no problems with my 15W Weller and Antex in the past though, any bit of heat on these switches and they fall apart..

Re: DONT buy cheap switches!!

Posted: 22 Apr 2010, 10:51
by nbabmf
Most anything is going to be complete shit if you hold your iron to it for too long.

Re: DONT buy cheap switches!!

Posted: 22 Apr 2010, 12:05
by zeppe
Most anything is going to be complete shit if you hold your iron to it for too long.
Yup, you're absolutely right, thanks!

Anyhoo, effectsonnection got back to me promptly and offered me a refund or credit on the next purchase.
He said that maybe they sent out momentary switches instead of the latching type?
Got some decent 3PDTs on the way :D

Re: DONT buy cheap switches!!

Posted: 23 Apr 2010, 04:48
by phibes
That's cool he refunded it. I didn't want him to get a bad name on the net from having that switch melt. I love how he actually takes time to label everything in the order.

It's a good thing you didn't melt a Carling!!!

Re: DONT buy cheap switches!!

Posted: 27 Jun 2010, 23:36
by Torbjorn 66
CHEEZOR wrote:Nothing beats a nice quality tool that is right for the job!
Thats what she said?