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Re: MV Shreadhead
Posted: 19 May 2010, 12:22
by Sweetalk
Is that hard to desing a PCB?... (I know that it's not!). At least make your own layout with your "MODS". This is a shame.
Re: MV Shreadhead
Posted: 19 May 2010, 12:36
by mictester
Sweetalk wrote:Is that hard to design a PCB?... (I know that it's not!). At least make your own layout with your "MODS". This is a shame.
It takes about half an hour to design a board like that if you're competent. You have to remember that most Boutique Boobs assume that the
layout, colour and
size of the components matters more than the actual circuit design itself because
they know no electronics at all.
It's funny that the builder of that thing claims that there are mods under the board - why? Wouldn't it be easier to put in his magically calculated changed values when the board was constructed, rather than tack them on underneath?
The only change that's visible is that the "presence" preset is now a front panel pot. He
might have put a resistor in series with the pot under the board, but it would be easier and neater to drill a couple of extra holes for the additional resistor, cut the track under the board, and solder it in.
No doubt the morons at TGP think that it's either:
(a) wonderful
(b) too cheap to be any good.
Re: MV Shreadhead
Posted: 19 May 2010, 13:33
by Greg
mictester wrote:
No doubt the morons at TGP think that it's either:
(a) wonderful
(b) too cheap to be any good.
Who'll be first to break their hearts:
http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showth ... p?t=686423
Re: MV Shreadhead
Posted: 19 May 2010, 13:57
by jmwreck
quaternotetriplet wrote:Greg_G wrote:g0d5_g1ft wrote:to the guys defense, he did say it was "modded" and that the mods are underneath the PCB, what the mod is and how it fit there I do not know, I dont really care. I just saw this and I was curious

about the mod so I replied...

Then he should design his own PCB.. Madbean says very clearly that his designs aren't for commercial use.

pre, daming issues dito!
this is my opinion, whether its original design or not, lets just keep this cool!

Re: MV Shreadhead
Posted: 19 May 2010, 14:48
by phibes
Does the builder post here? That's fuckin bullshit.
Re: MV Shreadhead
Posted: 19 May 2010, 14:59
by SpencerPedals
Indeed. The good news is that if Madbean doesn't agree with what's happening, he can simply cut him off and he'll have to do what everyone else does and actually design a PCB.
Re: MV Shreadhead
Posted: 19 May 2010, 15:04
by Greg
SpencerPedals wrote:Indeed. The good news is that if Madbean doesn't agree with what's happening, he can simply cut him off and he'll have to do what everyone else does and actually design a PCB.
He may be making his own PCB's, but he's using Madbean's layout.
He probably is as I don't think Madbean will supply commercial quantities of clone boards.
Re: MV Shreadhead
Posted: 19 May 2010, 15:59
by SpencerPedals
Shit I forgot Madbean's layouts are all posted. I was thinking he made layouts specifically for the site and sold them.
Re: MV Shreadhead
Posted: 19 May 2010, 17:08
by culturejam
I suppose it's possible that this guy worked out a deal with madbean.
If so, then that's cool-and-the-gang.
If not, it's kinda douchey.
Re: MV Shreadhead
Posted: 19 May 2010, 23:56
by mictester
I cannot believe how stupid the posters are on that forum. "Sounds great with a Tubescreamer" - what a tw*t.
I'm investigating some thick Plexiglass for casing - I'm determined to make the most "transparent" overdrive pedal ever!
It's going to be in a limited run of perhaps 12 (with number 13 for myself, of course), and they're going to have a reserve price that will make your eyes water. I think that it would be fun to have a little competition for the denizens of this forum to guess the highest price one of these goes for. The person who gets closest gets a free one in return for some of his best local beer.
The PCBs will have gold-plated tracks, all the component values will be repainted to silly ones, and the IC will have a bizarre part number. It'll also be fun to see which Boutique Boob claims to have cloned it first!
I'll keep you all posted!
Re: MV Shreadhead
Posted: 20 May 2010, 00:06
by Greg
phibes wrote:Does the builder post here? That's fuckin bullshit.
Yes he's a member.
He uses the same name here as he does at TGP, and it's in the TGP thread linked above, and also in posts spamming the pedal at TGP.
Re: MV Shreadhead
Posted: 20 May 2010, 01:16
by quaternotetriplet
jmwreck wrote:quaternotetriplet wrote:Greg_G wrote:g0d5_g1ft wrote:to the guys defense, he did say it was "modded" and that the mods are underneath the PCB, what the mod is and how it fit there I do not know, I dont really care. I just saw this and I was curious

about the mod so I replied...

Then he should design his own PCB.. Madbean says very clearly that his designs aren't for commercial use.

pre, daming issues dito!
this is my opinion, whether its original design or not, lets just keep this cool!

oo nga e.. sino kaya nagpost ng guts?
(who would post, the guts ?)
Re: MV Shreadhead
Posted: 20 May 2010, 01:25
by Greg
quaternotetriplet wrote:
who would post, the guts?
Well, this forum is based on members sharing.
I'm sure you've benefited many times from guts, tracing, schematics posted here..
I'd dare to suggest that without this forum there would be no MV Electronics Shredhead pedal.
I think it's time for everyone to stop the witch hunt and stop taking this thread personally.. it's just another exposure of a pedal at FSB.. happens every day, and it's all good.
(yes, I visited the other forum).
As the builder admits this is based on the Crunch Box, I see only one real problem.. that can be easily fixed, and that's the commercial use of Madbean's layout, I presume without his permission to do so.
All he has to do is design, or have designed, his own PCB.
It's a simple circuit.. so easy to do, he can incorporate any modifications.. and everyone's happy.
What would be really cool is if the builder shared the mods he'd made with the DIY community.

Re: MV Shreadhead
Posted: 20 May 2010, 03:12
by distortion_gfx1
Yari.. akala ko pa naman sariling design nya tol! kay madbean pala!
paparoni wrote:this is too disappointing man
Re: MV Shreadhead
Posted: 20 May 2010, 03:47
by Greg
distortion_gfx1 wrote:Yari.. akala ko pa naman sariling design nya tol! kay madbean pala!
paparoni wrote:this is too disappointing man
Please guys,, this is an English speaking forum, and while there are many Nationalities here and we deal with language problems at times... posting in a foreign language so only a few can understand it is a bit rude.
Re: MV Shreadhead
Posted: 20 May 2010, 05:58
by Jack Deville
The exposure of this design actually lead me down the path of an SMD layout for the crunchbox circuit.
If it ever gets done, I'll post it for everyone's use.
I try to make things as small and dense as possible, so it may take a little bit.
Kudos to the "builder" for this inspiration!

Re: MV Shreadhead
Posted: 20 May 2010, 07:00
by RnFR
Jack Deville wrote:The exposure of this design actually lead me down the path of an SMD layout for the crunchbox circuit.
If it ever gets done, I'll post it for everyone's use.
I try to make things as small and dense as possible, so it may take a little bit.
Kudos to the "builder" for this inspiration!

this circuit does sound pretty \m/ in that demo doesn't it? no wonder it's sold a 100 in the phillipines!

looking forward to that layout. i would really like to start getting my smd together... and wouldn't it be funny if it was because of this thread?
Re: MV Shreadhead
Posted: 20 May 2010, 15:50
by culturejam
phibes wrote:Does the builder post here? That's fuckin bullshit.
No, it's fuckin boutique is what it is.
There are a handful of really creative boutique builders, and the other 98% of them are repackaging the same old shit.
Re: MV Shreadhead
Posted: 25 May 2010, 14:12
by DimebuGG
Patay!, nakakahiya, parang ayoko ng mag.post dito sa FSB.
(Damn!, so shameful, I feel like not posting anymore here at FSB.)
Re: MV Shreadhead
Posted: 25 May 2010, 14:17
by Greg
DimebuGG wrote:Patay!, nakakahiya, parang ayoko ng mag.post dito sa FSB.
(Damn!, so shameful, I feel like not posting anymore here at FSB.)
What are you talking about ?
What's shameful or wrong here, and what do you think FSB has done wrong that would cause you to say that ?
How is this any different to the hundreds of other pedals, gutshots and circuits on here for all to share ?